I want to see what he can do the rest of the year bro. Here is a bigger question, did Dom Capers under estimate his skills?

 

We need to see alot more from him the rest of the season before he 'locks' down any starting spot on this roster IMO. He needs to continue that level of play.

 

I always said I thought he would show up if given the chance on the field, so I hope he keeps it up.

 

it's ad but all too true

 

His play has surprised me and in 3 games I think he is tied for the team lead for interceptions.

 

Oh, I agree 100%, but by reading other phin forums as of late many are already crowning him a stud due to this past game alone.

 

I think Allen has proven he needs a chance. He warrants it with his 2 INTS and he has proven to be around plays that causes turnovers. I wasnt an Allen fan but i think hes stood up to the dilemma which is our defensive backfield and proved hes one for the future if hes given a chance. With our 0-10 record and injuries he will get all the chances he needs. Im rooting for him.

 

Patience with young players is required....who knew?

 

I've been impressed w/ his tackling for the most part. He's been solid. He's a playmaker and that is what we need back there. Hill,Goodman,Lehan,Worrell, Will Allen. Nary a ballhawk among them.

 

I always wondered if we over estimated Capers? :confused1:

 

Why would we take McFadden at #1? I am just looking for reasonable justification.

 

:escape:

The one thing that I really liked hearing even before the last couple games when he has played better was listening to a press conference from Cam where he was talking about all the the work Allen has been putting in in terms of film study and such. He talked about how Allen has embraced the idea of being the QB of the D........ Or maybe that was after he started playing well, I cant remember.

That persistency is whats giving him a chance, good stuff on his part.

 

There is no way, and I mean no way, we take McFaden number one unless the prognosis of Ronnie is bad.

And if we do I will cry for a week. Then I will go hunting for Muller and Cam, open season baby. :punk:

 

Dorsey doesn't rate #1?

 

Yeah, I am not sure on the Mc Fadden #1 either, not sure why we would need to grab another RB in the first round, especially when we have far greater needs.

 

Dorsey can easily be argued for BPA and he fills our biggest need...why use the pick to compete with the #2 overall from 05?

 

So C Long is no name now? Before even taking a snap?


Wow, where are we again?

 

Auburn, Florida Int, Miss St. McFadden got plenty of chances those games, don't blame his head coach.

And I can't find any defensive stats on Long(but I am pretty sure he makes the OT look silly every game). Aside from that you keep mentioning him, as if I said he should be taken #1. I merely said he isn't a no name, while you are crowning Mcfadden as a HOFer. Heck, you know Long isn't a no name, or else you wouldn't even be mentioning him.

 

I like Long but I never mentioned him...

 

ROFL @ no name.

 

By that line of thinking we dont need to take a single defender in this draft. That should work out well.

 

It's great to see Allen play well. I'm eager to see if he progresses by season's end.

 

On the Chris Long talk I love him as much as the next guy but he shouldnt be drafted with the number 1 overall pick. If we trade down then sure but not with the first pick.

 

Trade down if we can find a partner but that likely won't happen unless someone gets a chubby for McFadden or one of the quarterbacks. If we can't do that, draft Glenn Dorsey. Perfect starting point for the rebuild on defense.

 

What other first rounder do you speak of?

 

There are four scenarios we are looking at come draft day: (if we retain the #1 overall pick)

A) Draft Dorsey, which seems to be the most popular choice right now, and some say the best defensive player in the draft.
B) Draft McFadden, which is right behind the Dorsey vote, many want a new face for the franchise and the best overall talent in the draft.
C) Draft Chris Long, wishful thinking on my part but could happen, a defensive enforcer and great team captain with much character.
D) Trade down and gain a pick(s), draft day trades are rare but with a prospect like McFadden there some team may decide to make a move.

I personally would like to see scenario C or D play out. If D did occur we could then target players such as Kenny Phillips, Calais Campbell, James Laurinaitis, & Dan Connor.

 

I really dont see the logic behind drafting mcfadden. He is a great player I dont deny that but right now I think he is luxury more than anything. Im completely fine with the running backs we have right now. Drafting Dorsey or to a lesser extent Long because they both fill a need and are considered top five players in the draft.

 

Obviously they will go BPA being nothing more than a luxury pick for them with an already loaded roster. All depending on how the first couple of picks play out, I think they will target Laurinaitis to address their aged LB core, but again that all depends on where Dorsey, Chris Long, and McFadden end up.