Well, it appears that Matt Moore is locked in as our starter for the second year in a row thanks to injury. That also means we need to sign a backup immediately IF we're not moving Doughty up from the practice squad. If Cutler does have a cracked rib, he's out for a month minimum.
Before answering, think about this. If Moore does well, we could be playoff bound and we will need a legit backup. Cutler would be ready come playoff time but the chances of him starting at that point (barring a Moore injury) are slim. So we're likely drafting a QB2 for the season and not gambling on a washed-up starter to take the reigns immediately.
In other words, we could have Doughty as a backup for a month and Cutler could be the QB2 by December....if you believe Moore can continue his progression that we've seen in 2016 and 2017.
Now, if Moore does poorly/average and we're not playoff bound, then we may not need a veteran type that can step in at a moment's notice...we could just ride out the season and let the chips fall where they fall. That would make the argument for Doughty a lot stronger. But in any case, you have to assume that whoever we sign will have a good month to ride the bench and learn the offense...unless Moore gets hurt (which is a legit concern with his concussion history). So we sorta, kinda have a little time to get this right.
So who do you take? Or are we good as-is?
Who do we sign as our backup to Moore?
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Nobody- Doughty is fine.
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Sign Kaepernick!
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Sign RG3!
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Sign Romo!
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Sign Tebow!
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Sign Ponder!
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Recap - Dolphins have 4 QB's on the books at present - RT17, Cutler, MM8 and Doughty.
Two of those QB's are injured.
One of them isn't seen as NFL ready yet.
Cutler was brought in to replace one injured QB and became the other injured QB. He was a retired veteran, of questionable ability, who had been away from the game, out of training, and was brought in because he had familiarity with the system, for £10 Mill. He has shown plenty of rust.
So now we're looking at...
Kaep - Another QB away from the game, out of football shape, of questionable ability, and we want to throw money at him? - Not in my book.
RG3 - As above but also an injury risk... Yeah, no.
Romo - More talented than Cutler but further along in his transition to broadcasting (and talent too, apparently). Same as both above but even MORE injury prone. Throw money at that? - Not a chance. And he wouldn't do it anyway.
Tebow - Out of football shape. Broadcasting. Questionable ability.... spotting a pattern yet?
Ponder - Anyone who would, clearly hasn't.
I say the Phins either roll as they are with enough QB's or they look for a genuinely talented backup who can stay with them after this year and can at least replace Moore as the backup if not compete for a starting spot. Not easy, but ideally you get someone who has promise and you see it as an investment at the QB spot. Proven potential for a draft pick spot and whatever else. So for that you have to scour the active backup QB's in the league and get someone you like, probably from a team that needs help at DL or WR where we have some talent.
That way you get a backup QB in a worst case scenario this year, and some future QB talent to try to develop, making the most of a bad situation.Last edited: Oct 23, 2017tirty8, Irishman, KeyFin and 1 other person like this. -
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Roll with the players on the roster,to late to bring in someone and get them ready.
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If Moore gets hurt, we are looking at finding a FOURTH starter/near-starter quality QB for this season. Most teams are done after one, two at most, QB injuries. I think Moore is can survive long enough to let Cutler heal, and Doughty can get us through a game or two if necessary. It is too late to worry about bringing in yet another QB -especially one that would need to learn the system.
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I thought that Kaepernick should have been signed instead of Cutler when Tannehill went down.
At this point in the season though, I really don’t see Kaepernick or any of the other unsigned QBs being able to come in and be of much help, since they don’t know the offense and are not likely in shape to play an NFL game.
So they should just stick with Moore and Doughty and hopefully QB will be a priority in the next draft.KeyFin likes this. -
I would stick with Doughty. This situation is perfect to do just that. If Gase insists on going back to Cutler we are talking 3-4 games that he will miss. No point in bringing in someone new for that. Cutler will be back.
It also shows Doughty you believe in him which helps with confidence.
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Was Cutler signed for 10 million pounds? Because that would be even worse than ten million dollars...
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What TJ Yates isn't available this year?
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just curious, why do people think Kaep is out of Football shape?
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Meh, sports fans have short memories.
Take out politics, take out personality. Is this person the most capable of winning games if Matt Moore got hurt? If the answer is yes, that's who they should sign.Puka-head, ChrisKo, texanphinatic and 1 other person like this. -
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Cutler can play after baltimore. It's ribs. Get the flak jacket and put him in if we need him. Dougjty for Baltimore is fine
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Maybe we do end up at 8-8 since the last six games this year are BRUTAL. Or maybe our defense continues to grow and we steal a few tough games in that stretch. But I honestly don't think Kaep would make a difference either way....we are going to beat the average/bad teams out there and struggle against the great ones. -
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I wanted him over Cutler because I thought the dynamics would work here and our excellent owner could handle it..but its too late now.ChrisKo and texanphinatic like this. -
WQAM 560 Joe Rose this morning, tries to start a debate about who the greatest backup in team history is.... offers up Don Strock vs Matt Moore. Thankfully his co-host knows more about the team. :bored:
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"The magnitude Kaep has" - by which you mean next to nothing compared to any of the players just named?
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No more throwing resources into Qb's that are not on rosters for a reason. We need to go with what we have. I would like to see us draft a QB fairly high if we see one that fits. For this year, we have Moore for now and Cutler later if needed, which is likely due to Moore's injury history. If Doughty cannot even step in and play to bridge the gap if Moore gets hurt before Cutler can play again then why is he taking up a spot? I'm not saying he needs to carry the team or even win, but can he call a play in the huddle, perform a snap count and hand the ball off and throw the odd pass to our team? If not he has been here too long.
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