Mark Brunell was a vackup hes jealous

 

He had some very good seasons as the Jags' starter.

 

1). Tannehill has shown he can play clutch football in his career. So it's not like he doesn't have the ability to do it. I guess his past 4th quarter comebacks didn't happen? Or simply don't count?

2). Tannehill hasn't played in many "game on the line, 4th quarter drives" this season. Other teams had last drives opportunities. Jarvis Landry holds on to the football and maybe we beat Denver and you don't hear MB or TB talking ****. Which leads me too...

3). Aaron Rodgers, the best passer since Dan Marino, is like 6-20 something when losing heading into the 4th quarter w/GB losing. Circumstances dictate outcomes as much as ability.

4). Perception isn't always reality. Tom Brady is touted for his "clutchness." Yet, over the last few years, he hasn't nearly been so clutch. In fact, he's been average. Meanwhile, Tony Romo is the poster boy for being a choker, despite excellent performances in the 4th quarter over a long stretch of time. In fact, no one has a better QB rating in the 4th than he does.


Whatever. I don't really care what the perception of Tannehill is. He's got to perform at a high level over the next few weeks. That's that. He knows it. We know it. Hopefully Lazor helps him out, because I'm not feeling the play calling run/pass inconsistencies.

 

In all , big game losses this year he left the game with the lead, it was the D that couldn't stop the other team

 

One of the good things about football is that you get a chance to prove the pundits wrong .

 

This.

I think it is now apparent Miami has been 'hiding' O-line deficiencies with play-calling. When things 'click', the plays pan out and Lazor looks like the second coming. When they do not, we get some of what we saw against the Jets. Though, there were some really nice ones sprinkled in there against NY.

Unfortunately, I still think losing Moreno limits what this team can do. Miami has faced some stout D-lines this year where Moreno's presence would have helped given Miami's propensity for quick passing anyway. They have not had that presence to keep a D-line at bay for that split-second to try deeper throws on earlier downs. And when it is an obvious passing down, defensive lines peel back their ears and basically win the majority of the time.

While Tannehill has improved in his awareness, sometimes there is just not much he can do because of how quickly these teams are getting through. He barely has enough time to set his feet on some of these plays.

Losing Albert does not help, as if I needed to say it again.

Honestly, I do not see why they do go back to the uber-quick passing that worked extremely well a few weeks ago. It may just be the ticket because it was tough to stop. Maybe this is the identity of this offense right now. There's really not much else to go with. Pepper in a few good runs by Miller, and your offense gets some semblance of balance.

While the rough start against the Jets was frustrating, Lazor may have held a few things back. While winning is all that matters, sometimes not tipping your hand early (ala, giving Baltimore a good sense of what to expect) may have been in the back of Lazor's mind.

Look for Miami to bounce back against the Ravens. I think they'll be able to score a good amount of points against them. Forsett has been on a tear, so they must stop that run, but their receivers do not necessarily scare anyone, although, they are savvy. I think they can dedicate another person to stopping the run, and hope the DBs can hold their own.

It'll be interesting to see if Baltimore gets away from the run if Miami gets on a lead early (I have a feeling they will). It could be a very good thing if they do. Limit their 3rd down conversions. This is frustrating.

Tannehill needs to continue with his accuracy, though there were some throws against the Jets that looked like he was playing in 2013. Limit those (hell, eliminate them altogether), and I think Miami wins against the Ravens.

 

Yet he made the plays to drive us down the field and kick the game winning field goal... uh... ok.

Nothing to see here..

 

Bruschi is a very open Patriots homer. He hates us and will knock Miami any chance he gets. Sadly, we're going to have to deal with all of these jerks for a long, long time because the Patriots success has filled TV and radio jobs with the bozos.

 

Both these guys are 3rd string ESPN commentators just trying to get their names out there, don't feed into it.

 

Yeah the timing was very odd. He literally just had a 4th qtr comeback.

 

I dont think we do either, the score should have been 24-13 not 16-13. We are very fortunate that Folk is the designated tank commander. The guy has been one of the best kickers in the NFL for years now and he misses two field goals he usually always makes.

 

I have seen improvement by Tannehill this year, but I also question if he can be the QB this team can rely on to pull out a victory in the 4th quarter of close games.

The ability to make plays in the closing minutes of a game is what separates the elite QB's from the mediocre QB's in the NFL. This is an area which Tannehill still needs to show vast improvement if he ever expects to be considered anything but an average QB in the league.

At this stage of his career, I can understand the view of Tannehill by these two former players. It is up to Tannehill to prove them wrong going forward.

 

Not only that, but we don't exactly have the easiest schedule and our defense has been absolutely gashed for two weeks in a row. We could get to 9-7 and miss the playoffs, and they'll be right (even if the QB wasn't actually the problem; it'll be viewed as if he couldn't get it done by many people nationally).

 

His fourth quarter win/loss record backs Teddy/Brunnell's opinion on Tannehill. Seriously, how do you miss two wide open touchdowns. If he hits those Teddy and Brunnell wont make these comments. The Jets defense has been very average to bad this year. Next Sunday we are facing a team with a quarterback that is average to above average at times, field goals isnt going to cut it.

 

Every game we have lost the offense has had a chance in the 4th quarter to step up and they did not. Tannehills 4th quarter QB rating is in the 70's.

 

There were equal times they could have iced the game on offense and could not.

 

**** Teddy Bruschi.. He can kiss Ryans assented when we rip the Patriots a new *** hole

 

Huh? Every loss Tannehill was on the bench with the lead.

 

Snoor.. Since when do fans not support the QB of their team...

 

The offense could not get a first down to run out the clock and thus had to punt. In theory the defense should never have been put back on the field.

 

One of the few times I'll put blame completely on coaching. We don't call the plays to give Ryan a chance to ice. We call runs and safe routes. Our play calling against the Lions and packers was terrible in both situations

 

That's ridiculous. The offense got the lead. Their job was done.

 

I'm sure you watched the game, and it was posted on here, but Gruden explained how the first "wide open touchdown" to Wallace was simply a result of Tannehill throwing to his first read, who was open. That's how progressions work. Now, IF Miami had a line that could hold, perhaps Tannehill would feel comfortable looking off his first read, and going to his second or third progression. However, say he does that, and by the time he gets to the third option, it's no longer open. Now everyone is screaming about how terrible Tannehill is because he didn't throw to his first read, who was wide open, and instead, he held onto the ball too long. Seriously, this is getting ridiculous. Tannehill really can't win with some of you guys.

Also, this garbage about Tannehill not doing enough in the fourth quarter is so frustrating. He had leads in the fourth in Green Bay, Detroit, and Denver. We lost them all. We lost them because this defense couldn't stop them. It's ridiculous the amount of vitriol thrown Tannehill's way, and the defense slides right by, with nary a comment made. I've been saying it all year, and I'll continue saying it, this defense is NOT that good. The defense is responsible for Tannehill not having three more wins. We're complaining about Tannehill's play in New York, yet the defense gave up 130 rushing yards IN THE FIRST QUARTER. They gave up 200+ in the FIRST HALF. Sure, the offense struggled too, but that defense was absolutely disgusting. Wallace dropped one of the easiest passes of all time, but I don't see much about that. I see people complaining about Tannehill, and saying he "needs to step up." Garbage. Tannehill can step up all game every game, but if the defense and receivers don't also step up, it won't matter. Here we are, almost three seasons into Tannehill. He's sitting at a 92.1 rating, with 20 tds 9 ints. Yet, here we are, still bagging on Tannehill. Face it people, there is more to winning than the quarterback playing well. Some people can't see the forest for the trees.

 

There have been so many people who were eager to call this defense elite or very good...and for the most part they have been good. But to have this very highly rated unit(I do not care for ratings) on the field with a chance to win games and fail, has stuck with me. Granted, the offense could have gotten the defense off the hook with a few first downs but...I want a DEF. unit that is willing to have the game on their shoulders, especially that they should be the strength of this team, at the end of games. People want to praise an elite defense as long as the offense puts them in a position not to prove it.

 

Sims was his first read and was wide open.

The Wallace one in the end zone was unfortunate.

 

Except he only came open because the DB followed Ryan's eyes as he progressed through his reads.

 

a backup ??? have you see the glory years of jacksonville at all ? or the worst loss ever 62-7 against him ?

 

Might as well ask them to score 90+ points a game, so the defense doesn't have to worry about letting the other team score, it's not like it's their job or anything.

 

Thought Fiedler started that playoff game for them.

 

no i think he came in later

 

Brunell started the game, Fiedler came in after it was officially a blowout. Everytime I try to forget that game its brought up again. Damn

 

I know, it is crazy to ask the offense to run out the clock, my bad!

I agree the Denver loss was all on the defense..

I would think the progession would be deep ball first and work in closer with progressions. Makes little sense to go short first and work to deeper routes..... no check downs that way.

 

Yeah seems more accurate. I was like 9 so I dont really remember.

 

Both are good points. And I really miss Knowshon Moreno. While Miller has performed well, I think this offense is a different animal w/Moreno in there. More physical and diverse.

 

There's no way you can do the deep ball first. You want the QB holding the ball for the majority of the possession waiting to see if the deep ball opens up? Maybe on some play actions or something the first read is the deep ball.

It is crazy that you blame the offense for not stopping the Detroit Lions on their last possession, and it's crazy that you are blaming Tannehill and the offense for allowing a 3rd and 15 to be completed for big gain, and a 4th and 10 to be converted, and a fake spike allowing a receiver to get to the sideline, all in the Green Bay Game. It is crazy. Sure, it would be nice if the offense didn't allow the defense back on the field, but the fact is, that the defense was on the field PROTECTING A LEAD in all those games, and folded like a wet paper bag. The fact is, this defense is supposedly elite, which our offense is not. If there is one group that should be counted on, it should have been the defense.

 

It varies by play call, match up, and situation, but you typically always throw it to the first open receiver in the progression. If he is open, hit him. Don't wait and hope. Especially as poorly as this line is currently blocking. Gruden mentioned this the other night saying "you go through your progressions. When a receiver earlier in the progression is open, you throw it. You can't see everything."

Tannehill got a lot of heat for throwing the 20 yard downfield strike to Sims prior to Landry coming open on a blown coverage. That was unfortunate, but that is the way progression football reads work. The checkdown/quick out/rush read is to avoid the pass rush.