Man, that really upsets me that Andre wanted to come home and we did not call him? Blasphemous....Man would he have looked good in aqua & Orange?......huge miss.:no:

 

I guess the catch is we most likely did sign a future hall-of-famer in Suh.

 

Considering our WR corps looks to be pretty good (I say "looks" because they do have to prove it on the field, but I'm sure they will..), I think it's not a big loss. Now if that $5 mil saved goes to Mathis, the argument would be complete.

 

Well...it's hind-sight and all, so who really knows? We could've been "interested" but maybe not as intere$ted as the Colts. Had we not landed Jennings (who I've ALWAYS liked, and wanted over MW11 at the time) then I'd be upset.

 

Andre Johnson wanted to play for the Dolphins

Andre Johnson said he "thought about" playing for the Dolphins, but Miami never called him as a free agent.

I always had a dream of playing at home," said Miami native Johnson. "I was a huge Dolphins fan. But they never called." It's pretty much meaningless, but interesting nonetheless considering the Dolphins overhauled their receiving corps during the offseason. They traded for Kenny Stills, drafted DeVante Parker, and signed Greg Jennings, so it's a bit puzzling they didn't even call Johnson.

 

Could have been cool for sure, but he's an old-timer now. Love the AJ, always will.

 

He basically costs double Greg Jennings. And I'm not too sure he's got more in the tank than Jennings, who should be a natural fit for this offense. Would of been awesome a few years ago though.

p.s. Puts the whole, "everyone w/to play with Andrew Luck" crap to bed. People want to play for whoever pays them.

 

Last year, it would have been fun with he and Cortland Finnegan on the same team.

 

I aint so mad cause we got Jennings at half the price, when you pay Suh you cut some corners somewhere, and the talent of Jennings softens the blow.

also Andre is gonna be 34 years old in 3 days.

 

He's 34, it's not that big of a deal.

 

Steve Smith had a good season with the ravens n he's 36yrs old

A. Johnson is a beast but he's never had a good qb i cant wait to see wat he does with A. Luck. I hope he has a beast of a season cus i got him in my fantasy team.

If S. Smith at 36 had a good season with flaco i think A. Johnson will have a better one with Luck at 34

 

You can't just say because one player did something at a certain age, another will do the same or better. People are different.

 

Had we not gotten Jennings, I'd be bothered. I take Jennings to be a better mentor for the kids, very glad we got him, if 2 years late.

 

Johnson was great, but I'm happier getting the three guys that we brought in instead.

 

Who is to say he wouldn't have played for less? I would have taken AJ over Jennings everyday and twice on Sunday.....

 

I think that Johnson is wearing down more quickly, and had they signed him, may not have drafted Parker. I don't think that Jennings is any kind of long term answer for us, he may be gone after just one season, but with our whole corps taken into account, I think he fits better with the others than Johnson would have.

 

He's got a much better chance of getting a SB ring with Indy than us anyway.

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Greg Jennings looked pretty darn good when Miami played Minnesota at the end of last year. He ROASTED Brent Grimes all day long.

 

I am upset that we did not contact him....has nothing to do with Jennings who I also like allot. Most of you think AJ is too old..Well we will know for sure this season.

 

Jennings is terrible, he offers no value other than "leadership". AJ would have been a great red zone target along with Cameron. I def think playing in his hometown would have got him fired up again. Take the avg annual salary and AJ (7) and Jennings at (4)....even if you split the difference and paid him 5.5, he would have taken that because of no taxes...3 year deal and could be cut after 2...

Not to mention and most importantly is Parker's foot situation, I keep hearing mixed things on it.....if it turns out that he is out for some games, it isn't going to be good at all...

 

1. Jennings is not terrible.
2. You've no idea what Johnson would have taken.
3. You didn't say good bye when I left this morning....are we good?

 

I hope Parker has no ill effects from his foot problem...it will be rough to take if it is ongoing...it is one of the reasons that I had Perriman ranked ahead of Parker.

 

Tannenbaum was on Daniel Jeremiah's "Move the Sticks" podcast a while back (I think it was shortly after Parker had the surgery) and said that he thought Parker would be back by week 1, if not sometime in the preseason. Someone in another thread did the math based on the 8 week projection for recovery and I think that worked out to being right around the 3rd preseason game. I expect they'll not want to rush him back (which they can afford to do with the litany of receivers), so I'd think that first regular season game is probably on point barring a setback in his rehab.

 

What have you heard? I haven't seen anything since it was announced he was having surgery and the way it was presented then made it sound routine.

 

I would love to have KB's input here as he is probably an expert in this area.:up:

 

I'm glad we got Jennings, I think it will be similar production for much less cost. I can't honestly say I've watched too many Texans games, but Andre Johnson has only 4 seasons of reaching 8 TD's and none since 2010, kind of disappointing considering his size IMO when you see a guy like Mike Wallace get to 10 with us last year. Jennings shouldn't be as much of a red zone threat but he has 2 seasons where he got 12 TD's (yes better QB play, I know) and I'm fully aware that there are other variables as well but Johnson has 64 TD's in 169 games (169 starts) whereas Jennings has 63 TD's in 127 games (in 114 starts), pretty big difference.

 

One other way to [potentially] look at the Jennings signing vs. Andre Johnson is this. Assume that Landry does even better than last year, and Stills fares comparably to and produces the numbers Wallace posted; perhaps not 10 TDs, as I think those numbers will be more evenly distributed, but in terms of catches and yards the production is similar. Players were raving about Parker in OTAs and such, and let's assume he shows some major promise (I think he will if healthy). All the sudden, you've got 3 young receivers and Greg Jennings, and you've still probably got a Rishard Matthews, Matt Hazel, or one of the UDFAs waiting in the wings as a 5th guy.

It's going to be a lot easier to step away from Greg Jennings contract than it is to step away from Andre Johnson's. I bring this up as you have to consider salary ramifications down the road. Suh's cap number in 2016 is MASSIVE. Tannehill's and Pouncey's extensions both kick-in in earnest next year. We already know Miami's going to need to lop off some low-hanging fruit to stay under the cap, especially if they want to re-sign Lamar Miller or Olivier Vernon, or both.

While I think it's a nice story to bring in former Hurricane players/players from Miami, I think the long-term outlook has to be part of the picture with this news. While Johnson > Jennings in the short-term, just based on recent numbers, I think being able to walk away from Jennings much easier than you could Andre Johnson will pay dividends with respect to the roster even if it's not necessarily at the receiver position. Maybe it allows you to re-sign Miller AND OV as opposed to one or the other. Maybe it allows you to look at keeping a high-priced defensive player like Grimes or Misi who may have been headed toward the salary cap chopping block after 2015.

Just some food for thought, and I think that could very well be Mike Tannenbaum pulling the strings with this move given Jennings indicated it was a conversation with him that ultimately swayed him to come to Miami.

 

Excellent point and even if you don't "walk away" from Jennings next year, the new CBA allows you to roll forward the cost savings to 2016.

 

Too all that say G. Jennings is better then A. Johnson. Let me have watcha smokin

 

Not one person said Jennings is better...keep smokin'.

 

If we had drafted a offensive lineman or linebacker with our first I would have liked this signing. We wouldn't even have needed jennisngs. Johnson,Landry,stills would have been fine by me. But since we drafted parker it makes no sense. It would just be overkill

 

Triple against the cap. Jennings was 2.5 Aj would have been 7.5 million against this years salary cap.

 

Even worse. Good looks.

 

If Andre Johnson isn't a Dolphin it's probably because the team didn't want him. I'm alright with that. There are a lot of great players that aren't (and don't need to be) Dolphins.

Maybe I'm a little biased by who Miami did go after, but I don't see Andre Johnson as a fit for a team that wants to build effectively and efficiently for the future. Jennings you can afford at little cost. Johnson would be a serious acquisition. Indy was in the AFC Championship game last year and felt it needed to upgrade it's offense. They did that with several pieces this year and they look like the odds-on favorite to reach the Super Bowl from my perspective: elite QB, veteran weapons, young weapons, size, speed, some talent sprinkled around the defense, a HC the players seem to play hard for...and like I said, 2nd in the AFC last year.

You also have to look at the fact Andre Johnson has been featured as the primary weapon in Houston for a long time now. He caught over 100 balls in 2012 and 2013 and very nearly reached that number again in 2014, but battled some injury. In defense of Miami's front office, Ryan Tannehill hasn't been prone to jamming the ball in any one direction. Going after a guy who's going to command 180 targets is not exactly a recipe for consistency. So what Miami did spreading out their WR talent 5-6 deep is probably a more sensible move for a QB that is ever only going to target a single player maybe 130-140 times max.

I don't see any reason to expect more than about 600 yards from Jennings, but I'll happily take him along with Landry, Stills, Parker and Cameron over a more stripped down WR-corp that featured fewer guys for the sake of bringing in Andre Johnson.

 

I agree on the colts being the afc rep in the Super Bowl, but I just don't think that team plays hard because of its coach, I think it's all luck..

 

I don't think the HC hurts. They seemed quite motivated by his absence during the first year and very excited to see him return. That's not nothing. I'd say the team was very motivated during that first year and quite a bit probably had to do with the emotional lift that team seemed to be feeling at the time.

But don't misunderstand me. Going into 2015 Andrew Luck is head and shoulders above anyone else on the list of reasons why that team is motivated--no question about it. If he's not the best QB in the game right now, wait until the weather changes and he probably will be by then.

I don't think any team in the NFL is ever as motivated as when they really believe they can win because of a real physical advantage. Well, Andrew Luck is a huge physical advantage. What he does from the pocket will beat you most of the time. Guys line up against him knowing they will not look good. Guys take the field with him knowing they will probably win regardless of what they do.

But to be fair, if you asked me what guys had the most to do with winning, I begin my list with 5 or 6 of the league's best QBs, no doubt...and Luck would be on that list without hesitation. That's just the reality of pro football in the 21st century.

 

I agree with all that on Luck..Pagano to me, hmm, I know it was a nice story, but I just don't see it.

 

Glad you had the guts to say it because I imagine a lot of people will agree with you based on his persona.

However, the persona that reaches a fan in his recliner is not necessarily what the players see day to day...so in my eyes, a better question would be, why do we feel inclined to answer the question at all?

I for one think the fans should try and get out of the business of saying which coach's are worthy of praise and which aren't.

You don't hear a lot of fans fans building up guys with bad records and you don't hear a lot of objective analysis tearing down the guys with great records. If it just comes down to wins, say so in the opening line. That's my view.