''We havent been startin out fast and furious, and throwin the first punches, they set the tone, and we had to take what they gave us''
''we need to figure out whats best for our front line players, our back end players, we need to go back to drawing board''...'' we need to set the tone''
literally said that three different times..
http://www.miamidolphins.com/multim...he_Media/4557a208-5b24-458d-a644-6c2303a74c5d
''the miami herald has learned that suh freelanced at times creating confusion for the defense''
either he doesnt believe in what the coaches are selling or he's freelancing and needs to be reeled in.
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seems like he doesn't believe in our coaches or what they are doing on defense, also seems the sluggish magoo like attitude of our HC isn't lost on him.
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So coaching sucks and it takes Suh one and a half games to decide to ignore them.
Took Odrick two years to blow up publicly. Suh is less tolerant of incompetence. Lol.
Philbin will ask Tannenbaum to trade or cut Suh asap. Lol.
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I had reservations about signing Suh this offseason. Not so much because of Suh, but because of how I didn't think he'd mesh very well with the coaching staff. Suh is an intense dude who has a reputation here in Detroit for interesting comments in pressers.
I think it is a bit early to call this anything like a failed experiment or anything crazy like that, but after the "chat" on the sideline with Philbin and now these comments, I think it deserves monitoring. If it comes to it, I think a Philbin/Coyle/Suh clash could spell the end for Philbin and company. I think we can all guess how a dispute between highest-paid defensive player and lowest paid coach will go.Tannephins likes this. -
I just wonder if Suh is now questioning if signing with a team who was willing to pay him the most money was really worth having to deal with such an incompetent coaching staff.Phins Up Wins Up, Tin Indian, gunn34 and 1 other person like this. -
No way in hell does this go a full 14 weeks and end well. Joe is a tractor trailer stuck on the train tracks, the only question is when is the next train coming.
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I'm sorry but he's getting paid way too much money to come in here and not do what the coaches tell him to do. We didn't bring him here to create his own scheme and freelance. Either way, he's been non-existent, just like the rest of our defense.
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good news is if its suh or philbin, philbin is gone. should have been gone years ago, ross must like wasting time.
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Saw Suh a couple times telling Shelby something As jax came out of huddle then they'd stunt or twist at the snap. Suh was absolutely calling his own stuff at times.
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freelancing or not, this guy is a huge disappointment so far, the much needed push from the middle this signing was suppposed to bring.....i'm still waiting to see it
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Looks like the next train arrives Sunday at 4:25pm.
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Suh wouldn't be the first Dolphins defensive linemen to have an issue.
Randy Starks and Jared Odrick both have, and I'm sure that there are other players as well. I'd imagine that Olivier Vernon probably isn't too happy with the defensive coaching either.Undisputed, Phins Up Wins Up, Tone_E and 4 others like this. -
Can you fire a coordinator during the season? I know the Ravens did it to Cammy Cameron, but can we just fire Coyle now? If yes who would take over the rest of the season? Legitimate question here on my part, I mean there is no way in Hell our defense should be struggling like this.
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Mark Duffner would almost certainly be the guy who would take over for Kevin Coyle in-season.
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Joe philbin's loyalty will cost miami another year. In fact, ross's loyalty too.
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Suh isn't wrong with what he's saying, however he obviously needs to follow the gameplan or it isn't going to work, either. Its a mess. NOT changing out Philbin and Coyle after last year was a mistake from the moment the choice was made, and it has the potential to get ugly. Instead of getting the best out of all the talent we have on both sides of the ball, we're going to just scrape through the year yet again.
I'll keep my hopes up every single week. Its what I do. But I think it'll be harder for the next head coach to come in and just take over without a lot of changes. At this point, hopefully Tannehill is a selling point, along with Landry, and we can bring in a defensive HC who scraps everything on that side of the ball other than Suh, Jones and a few others and starts fresh. -
I would never accuse our fair sergeant of being strong in the face of pressure. If Ross and Tannenbaum wanted it done, it would probably be done.Tone_E likes this. -
Incidentally let me translate what Ndamukong Suh is saying.
He's saying, like Jared Odrick and Randy Starks before him, that the scheme is not playing to the talents of the players on the defensive line, and they should change it.DOLPHAN1, eltos_lightfoot and Tone_E like this. -
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I don't get why it's taking this fool so long to realize that maybe, just maybe it's the damn scheme, and it's not all on the players. His stubborn stupidity is going to be his downfall, and I personally, can't wait much longer.cdnfinfan likes this. -
Kevin Coyle isn't stupid. At what point does he realize what he's doing isn't working and the talent you he has knows it? Multiple players have said "this isn't working" so why doesn't he make adjustments? Stubbornness?
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Jared Odrick and Randy Starks are good players, but Suh is all world. If Suh has an issue with the scheme then Coyle better listen to what he has to say. It's clearly not good enough.
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At this point best case scenario is the team gets 5 wins and they finally fire Philbin, Coyle, and Lazor. They're all bad. Bringing this team no where. How do you mess up with Suh and Wake? Any coach that can't bring a pass rush with those guys really blows. Also Tannehill needs to be more mobile and get some throws down the damn field. Instead of all this dink and dunk play calling. Last possession of the game no time outs and 40 seconds left the team was still doing the dink and dunk. This run game is the worst in the NFL. And can we finally get an offensive line this offseason?!
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