Thats pretty brutal. Now you know why he was a cornerback in Highschool. A highly ranked corner I might add.

 

Aww geez Teddy...in 3...2..

 

Still have to think that if any of the current receivers are gone after this season, Ginn has to be at the top of the list.

 

Its good to see he admidts his problems instead of diverting blame, so the best thing Ted can do is find a mentor (LIKE CHRIS CARTER) work out with him and I bet alot of these issue get resolved. Carter took Randy Moss under his wings and tought him how to play WR. Hopefully they can touch base and Ginn dedicated this offseason to improving.

If not he will be gone after next year.

 

Torry Holt based on size and skill would have been ideal but they got cheap and didn't offer him a contract. Even a Torry Holt could have made our offense that much better.

 

I like Ted Ginn more than most and still think he can turn it around. I do find it disturbing however that Mark Duper reached out to him (what better mentor! Same skill set) and Super Duper never heard from him. Thats a damn shame. Duper ran a 4.2 and never had problems with drops. :no: Ted shoulda called him.

 

From the Chargers game to the game before the Bucs he was pretty terrible. I hope he can turn it around, as the past 5 games have been promising. I'd like to see him back next year at least through camp, and see if he can keep up with what he's been doing (if not improve). I'd love to have him be able to finish his career in Miami, and have that day be like 10 years from now.

 

im a ginn fan, and this will only break him or making him stronger... Next season we will see what kind a person Ginn is

 

ive been negative. but god damnit im rooting for him. hes a dolphin. hope teddy finishes strong man. he'll be a weapon with a true #1 WR on the other side

 

Good thing he's banked that +/- $17M so far. That'll take the sting out of sucking.

 

Did you say your rooting for Ted Ginn!? You must be sippin on the Crown reserve this christmas eve!

Ginn has done nothing for folks to not be negative, but its nice to see someone only take his hate so far. (SEE ABOVE POST) :up:

 

As long as he's sucking on the teat of my team's salary cap - and SUCKING - I hope he keeps hearing it. Even in his sleep.

 

There is no more salary cap Nabo.

Maybe they put his locker in the basement of Lands..err.. "Sunlife" George Costanza like?

"I'm still here! I'm still here!"

:D

 

You keep saying that like it's going to be true forever, Padre.

 

Nah times are tight, at least I'm on the Remy Martin cheapy cognac and coffee and Christmas cookies..

There is no player more frustrating to cheer for than Ted Ginn, he is like sailing vessel where the conditions have to be just right before he can make any headway.

I do believe he should take his craft more seriously though, and I'm not certain he will here in 2010, but man, all that talent, he should take up MMA or something to toughen himself up.

 

One thing that I've come to understand Nabo is the salary cap is a trick to provide an excuse for owners NOT to spend money on Free Agents.

Put it this way, when was the last early 2000's style "salary cap purge"?

Hasn't happened in almost a decade Nabo, imho the NFL no longer really cares about the Cap, that is why they just allowed accounting tricks to push salaries forwards and new, more expensive players to be signed.

Has Snyder in DC EVER run into a Cap Issue?

Nope, but because he is willing to spend the money the other owners could care less.

 

Eh, Sick has been critical, but I have never seen him say anything to make one think that he doesn't want Ginn to succeed.

 

ya ive consistently stated i want him to do well, prove us wrong, cause if he does good...the dolphins do good. Appreciate you noticing bro :up:

 

Wow. So, you're saying the salary cap was...a myth?

And therefore, teams don't need to concern themselves about having players who cost +$1M per touchdown?

:lol: Really?

 

Another thread for Ginn?

About 2 a week.

 

Its all in his head. I wish he was the second coming of Steve Smith.

Panthers Steve Smith :lol:

But the New York Giant Steve Smith wouldn't be all that bad.

 

I'd be happy with NYG SS.

 

At this point a change of scenery might do him a lot of good. Too bad he probably wouldn't get much at all in return for trading him. He's worth keeping if all anyone is going to offer are 2nd day draft picks. He's only 24, his problems seem to be more mental than any genuine lack of talent or skill. I'd like to think we can coach him out of his issues but at this point that remains to be seen. I'd hate to see him cut or dumped for nothing much at all and going to probowls some where else.

 

I don't think he's scared to play football. I don't know where people get this from. He's taken plenty of hits, and bounced right back up after each of them.

Like everyone says, it's all in his head. If he irons out his mental problems, he will be good. Problem is, I doubt he does.

 

If someone trains their body in the offseason like a mad man, takes their craft serious, then i just dont get the concept of having a bad year...

Its either you got serious issues mentally, or, you didnt do everything your craft demanded during the offseason like we thought....

Looks to me like the player is scared to death on the football field, it seems like his vision of the field cannot clear, because he's to worried about where, when, and how hard the contact is gonna be,

The titan game was brutal for me to watch......he's gotta lot to prove to earn my respect back... seein that its christmas and all, i guess iam willing to give his butt another offseason to rid himself of the demons, and to hit the weight room.

 

I get it, this is your christmas gift to us who support him right?:wink2::up:

 

I do feel bad for the guy for these types of situations but at the same time you have to realize has a pro athlete in a very popular game that if you are underperforming greatly then people are gunna let you have it.

 

If you don't think even winners have bad games, then you I don't think you are being very realistic bro. With all due respect dj ;)

 

I know what your sayin Luck, I gave him the nickname Teddy dangerous..I just cant believe what iam seeing take place on the field week to week, these are more then bad games brother, iam not sure if ive ever seen whats happening to him from week to week on a professional football field, the fear, the crouching, the seemingly involuntary reaction to cower when someone invades his space......He's gotta real bad rep right now in this league, and is gonna need to do somethin pretty special to earn respect..

I mean since he escaped no mans land against the Jets, his kickoff average I believe is below 20 yards {thats just brutal man}......he fumbles the punt when they finally decide to put him back there, then he flashes some ridiculously talented play {revis 6}.... i just cant take the ugly inconsistencies anymore Luck..

I do understand bad games by winners like you said, but seasons?, from a 24 year old player going into the 3rd year?...

I hope he comes out of this in the offseason..... but imo, its all about his body, if it does'nt mature and develope, his game isnt likely to change much...He's perfect prey for the Bullies in the NFL...and they like to take their punches at the LOSt, where he does'nt have the body or strength to fight them off.

 

hes soft. everyone knows it. i cant fathom how anyone who watches him does not see that. he sacrifices results in order to avoid contact. there is NO doubting that.

he needs a role model, who will inevitably take his snaps. if we dont get a good free agent receiver in the off season... ted ginn jr is going to be looking up to brian hartline next season.

 

As much as I like Ginn, if someone offered me ANY 2nd day pick right now, I'd probably take it.

 

It depends on what you are calling "results." Ginn didn't shirk anything when he took on Haloti Ngata in the playoffs in order to attempt to stop Reed from scoring on an INT. If he wanted to avoid contact so badly as to forgo results he sure as hell wouldn't have tried to go near a 300+ lb dude.

 

I don't think he is soft because I've seen him take hits and bounce back. I don't know, maybe it's different this season. But last year, he was playing like a real man.

 

There are other examples, as well. Remember the shot he took in the Bills game last season from Kawike Mitchell? He ate that hit and bounced back up. Ted Ginn of 08 and Ted Ginn of 09 are two different players, IMO.

 

OT Is a second day pick now a 2nd or 3rd rounder, since the draft is 3 days

 

that is silly man
ginn is a WR to defend his toughness after an int

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

gotta say that is one of the most honest and revealing interviews Ive ever read. Its interesting that he doesnt address the cause of his funk earlier this year. It's like it doesnt matter but what matters is getting past it. Very mature response IMO. He addresses that he could improve his KRs but doesnt dwell on it which is also a good sign. I found it rather interesting that he absolved the fans of their behavior. In every instance he accepts the present reality and reiterates that his sole job is to focus on the job at hand and improving every week and every season regardless of outside distractions. That is the perfect frame of mind to have to get out of a bad spell. The ability to focus on the job at hand and block out background noise is crucial for achieving peak performance

 

I'm convinced he can play CB. I would love to see him try. Why did they switch his position to WR again? He's 24 years old. He could be raw but I think he can do it. He has the physical tools and with maybe 10 pounds he'd be able to do it.