Miami opens a -2.5 Dog at NJ / New Jersey JETS Week!

Patriots aren't so "vaunted" anymore. They are a good team, but no longer a great team IMO.
still, I think it shows our defense is good enough to warrant attention vs any opponent.

on another note, love seeing the Jets fans finally infuriated with their offensive coordinator. surprised it took this long.

I figured we would open as the favorites. After losing a tough one to the Patriots in overtime, in a game that the Jets players and coaches built up emotionally all week...you would think there's bound to be a letdown the following week.

The problem is that Dolphins-Jets carries its own emotions. If the Jets were playing, let's say, the Rams...then I would be all over betting against the Jets. There's a chance that the Jets walk out of this game so pissed off that they take out their frustrations on us.

Also, dare I say it...but when you look on the Jets' performances this year, losses to the Steelers (3-3), 49ers (5-2), Texans (6-1)...an overtime loss to the Patriots (4-3)...wins over the Dolphins (3-3), Bills (3-4) and Colts (3-4)...this Jets team isn't as bad as we thought. Their opponents combine for 23-17 (.575) versus teams other than the Jets.

Nor are the Dolphins a bad team by any means. I'm not saying that. The Dolphins carry wins over the Raiders (2-4), Bengals (3-4) and Rams (3-4), with losses to the Texans (6-1), Cardinals (4-3) and Jets (3-4). Our opponents are a combined 18-17 (0.514) when not playing us.

I have to be honest. I was kind of anticipating the Jets getting killed by the Patriots in this game. The way it ended up playing out...I haven't fully digested what implications this might have for the game next week.

I agree 100%.. So why would you figure otherwise? -2.5 to a team that was expected to get demolished at NE sounds about right for me, if not generous if you are a Dolphins fan. The Jets clearly aren't as bad as initially thought with the loss of Revis and Holmes, and they have proved it against Hou / NE. I would think it would be closer to -4 / -5.

The Jets defense is definitely playing better the past couple of weeks. we will struggle to score many points this week. gotta hope our defense gets more turnovers vs Sanchez

"ckparrothead wrote:

I figured we would open as the favorites. After losing a tough one to the Patriots in overtime, in a game that the Jets players and coaches built up emotionally all week...you would think there's bound to be a letdown the following week.

The problem is that Dolphins-Jets carries its own emotions. If the Jets were playing, let's say, the Rams...then I would be all over betting against the Jets. There's a chance that the Jets walk out of this game so pissed off that they take out their frustrations on us.

Also, dare I say it...but when you look on the Jets' performances this year, losses to the Steelers (3-3), 49ers (5-2), Texans (6-1)...an overtime loss to the Patriots (4-3)...wins over the Dolphins (3-3), Bills (3-4) and Colts (3-4)...this Jets team isn't as bad as we thought. Their opponents combine for 23-17 (.575) versus teams other than the Jets.

Nor are the Dolphins a bad team by any means. I'm not saying that. The Dolphins carry wins over the Raiders (2-4), Bengals (3-4) and Rams (3-4), with losses to the Texans (6-1), Cardinals (4-3) and Jets (3-4). Our opponents are a combined 18-17 (0.514) when not playing us.

I have to be honest. I was kind of anticipating the Jets getting killed by the Patriots in this game. The way it ended up playing out...I haven't fully digested what implications this might have for the game next week.

I think with the dynamics going on in this one, due to the game yesterday and their being a home favorite, you're looking at a Jets team that comes out flat at the start of the game and gets down on the scoreboard early, and then comes roaring back for a close win in the end.

The Dolphins to win this one IMO will have to stage a blowout and leave no room for a comeback, and I don't think we have the firepower for that. IMO we don't have the ability to take a team that's flat and crush it into oblivion in the first half alone.

Jets aren't a very good team. Neither is NE for that matter. AFCE is wide open IMO.

"shouright wrote:

I think with the dynamics going on in this one, due to the game yesterday and their being a home favorite, you're looking at a Jets team that comes out flat at the start of the game and gets down on the scoreboard early, and then comes roaring back for a close win in the end.

The Dolphins to win this one IMO will have to stage a blowout and leave no room for a comeback, and I don't think we have the firepower for that. IMO we don't have the ability to take a team that's flat and crush it into oblivion in the first half alone.

I would tend to agree although I have to think about it some more. If I'm not mistaken, the original poster is claiming that the Dolphins are the favorites at -2.5 on the opening lines. If that's the case, the Jets may not even come out flat. They just played the Patriots up in their own house in New England, were 11 point underdogs, and played them to the bone in overtime. Now they come back and are 2.5 point underdogs IN THEIR OWN HOUSE, to a 3-3 team that they've already beaten once. There's something of an insult factor involved there.

Miami opened at +3 at Pinnacle. Now down to +1 at Pinnacle.

This is going to a lot tougher game than what I thought it was going to be before I watched that game last night. They aren't playing bad football. Their defense is playing really well.

"Berezo wrote:

This is going to a lot tougher game than what I thought it was going to be before I watched that game last night. They aren't playing bad football. Their defense is playing really well.

its always close against them no matter what

"ckparrothead wrote:

I would tend to agree although I have to think about it some more. If I'm not mistaken, the original poster is claiming that the Dolphins are the favorites at -2.5 on the opening lines. If that's the case, the Jets may not even come out flat. They just played the Patriots up in their own house in New England, were 11 point underdogs, and played them to the bone in overtime. Now they come back and are 2.5 point underdogs IN THEIR OWN HOUSE, to a 3-3 team that they've already beaten once. There's something of an insult factor involved there.

I fixed the title as it may have been confusing.. I've never bet on football so the +2.5 is the more accurate way to describe it.

I don't understand how losing to the Patriots in OT means the Jets are going to come out more fired up then we are when we lost to the Jets not that long ago, by very little.

I don't think either team has the clear "emotional advantage" in this game. I think the advantage comes down to us having two weeks to plan this game and we should be healthier.

just ****ing win. And for the love of dog, LIGHT TEBOW UP

This is pretty typical. Usually when teams have similar records Vegas usually inputs the home team as 3 point favorites. Its down to 2.5 probably because bets were coming in heavier on Miamis side so you had some movement in the line.

On another note, have you ever tried that Mad Dog 357 in your signature? That stuff will burn a whole in your gut, and thats coming from someone who loves hot food. I had the special reserve version that came with a bullet to bite and it brought everyone to tears it was soo hot.

"ckparrothead wrote:

I would tend to agree although I have to think about it some more. If I'm not mistaken, the original poster is claiming that the Dolphins are the favorites at -2.5 on the opening lines. If that's the case, the Jets may not even come out flat. They just played the Patriots up in their own house in New England, were 11 point underdogs, and played them to the bone in overtime. Now they come back and are 2.5 point underdogs IN THEIR OWN HOUSE, to a 3-3 team that they've already beaten once. There's something of an insult factor involved there.

Wait, I thought the Jets were favored?

They are Shou. My thread title is slightly misleading.

"VManis wrote:

On another note, have you ever tried that Mad Dog 357 in your signature? That stuff will burn a whole in your gut, and thats coming from someone who loves hot food. I had the special reserve version that came with a bullet to bite and it brought everyone to tears it was soo hot.

Dude, I love torturing myself with spice but I will not go near that.

"Finascious D wrote:

I don't understand how losing to the Patriots in OT means the Jets are going to come out more fired up then we are when we lost to the Jets not that long ago, by very little.

I don't think either team has the clear "emotional advantage" in this game. I think the advantage comes down to us having two weeks to plan this game and we should be healthier.

I agree, we should hopefully come out punching and put them down early. As long as we don't blow second half adjustments and the defense holds we can put it away. The Jets will get up for us as always, but they are beat to hell aside from just the Revis/Holmes blows.

Anyone can pass on the Patriots, so they aren't really vaunted anymore.

But Dolphins still have to watch out for Dustin Keller especially, because our Pass D isn't much better. We also need to run the ball, they should be able to, I mean they got a week off and basically had another week off against the Rams. Even against the Bengals they didn't do much.

Hopefully Gaffney plays to help the passing game, but Jets Pass D is playing well without Revis so far. Can't win against the Jets on the road like we won against the Rams, giving up 400+ yards and less than 200 yards for us.

First half is important, need to capitalize and not come out flat. Obviously the biggest game of the Tannehill/Philbin era, can't get swept by a division rival coming out of the bye week, and while holding down the 6th seed. Highest pressure game so far.

"Bumrush wrote:

They are Shou. My thread title is slightly misleading.

Oh really? Ok I thought the Dolphins were favored in this game. Interesting. I bet that line is going to be bet down to something close to a pick'em (Jets -1.0 or something like that).

I thought the Pats played very poorly in O and D they made the jets look good.

"shouright wrote:

I think with the dynamics going on in this one, due to the game yesterday and their being a home favorite, you're looking at a Jets team that comes out flat at the start of the game and gets down on the scoreboard early, and then comes roaring back for a close win in the end.

The Dolphins to win this one IMO will have to stage a blowout and leave no room for a comeback, and I don't think we have the firepower for that. IMO we don't have the ability to take a team that's flat and crush it into oblivion in the first half alone.

If we come out winning after the first half, we always win the 3rd quarter this year. Hopefully we will be leading by enough and turn things around in the 4th quarter. If we win the turnover battle, we will win this game. We are healthier than ever and they are worn out.

"VManis wrote:

On another note, have you ever tried that Mad Dog 357 in your signature? That stuff will burn a whole in your gut, and thats coming from someone who loves hot food. I had the special reserve version that came with a bullet to bite and it brought everyone to tears it was soo hot.

I thought you were talking about this Mad Dog-

Which, coincidentally will also burn a hole in your gut. It may also cause you to bed down with incredibly unattractive women. Prolonged use will lead to living underneath a bridge in a cardboard box.