I'm not one to do mock drafts because I'm pretty awful at them but thought I'd give it a shot. I hope Gish doesn't mind that I used his draft order.
NOTE: Some of the notables are missing such as Terrance Cody, Ebon Britton, Gerald McCoy and Colt McCoy and that is because I have them going back to school.
1. Detroit (0-16) - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
2. St. Louis (2-14) - Eugene Monroe, LT, Virginia
3. Kansas City (2-14) - Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
4. Seattle (4-12) - Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
5. Cleveland (4-12) - Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest
6. Cincinnati (4-11-1) - Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
7. Oakland (5-11) - Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
8. Jacksonville (5-11) - Andre Smith, LT, Alabama
9. Green Bay (6-10) - Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
10. Buffalo (7-9) - Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
11. San Francisco (7-9) - Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
12. Denver (8-8) - Rey Maualuga, MLB, USC
13. Washington (8-8) - Michael Oher, LT, Ole Miss
14. New Orleans (8-8) - Malcolm Jenkins, CB, OSU
15. Houston (8-8) - Greg Hardy, DE, Ole Miss
16. San Diego (8-8) - Peria Jerry, DT/NT, Ole Miss
17. New York Jets (9-7) - Chris Wells, RB, OSU
18. Chicago (9-7) - Jason Smith, T, Baylor
19. Tampa Bay (9-7) - Percy Harvin, WR, UF
20. Detroit (from Dallas) (9-7) - Ciron Black, LT, LSU
21. Arizona (9-7) - George Selvie, DE, USF
22. Philadelphia (9-6-1) - Taylor Mays, S, USC
23. Minnesota (10-6) - William Moore, S, Missouri
24. New England (11-5) - Sean Smith, CB, Utah
25. Atlanta (11-5) - Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State.
26. Miami (11-5) - Jerry Hughes, OLB, TCU
27. Baltimore (11-5) - Everette Brown, DE/OLB, FSU
28. Philadelphia (from Carolina) (12-4) - Russell Okung, T, Oklahoma St.
29. Indianapolis (12-4) - Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
30. Pittsburgh (12-4) - Max Unger, OL, Oregon
31. New York Giants (12-4) - Brian Cushing, OLB, USC
32. Tennessee (13-3) - Hakeem Nicks, WR, UNC
EDIT: Forgot about Sintim. Damn mock drafts.
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I see you like my tackle thoughts on philadelphia but don't like my moving around the safety ideas.
That's fine :shifty:
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It's good to see you putting up a mock I've been wondering all this time. -
Interesting. I don't know much about the guy slotted in our pick, I haven't followed college ball as closely as usual this year.
What really stands out to me is having Harvin so high. I know he is an extremely gifter athlete, but I don't think he is really polished as a WR. That and injury concerns. -
They concern me as well, Alex. However, it was either go with Darrius Heyward-Bey or go with Percy Harvin. Gruden isn't happy with last years pick Dexter Jackson because he hasn't developed quickly at the WR spot and has been limited to return duties. They want a homerun threat from what I understand and Bey and/or Harvin provide that. It was a toss up to me, I just slotted Harvin for no reason. You could switch it up with Heyward-Bey and it'd probably be a better decision, despite them both being raw as can be.
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And you don't even comment on my comment :tantrum:
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Also, Boomer, you know I'm not putting Jerry Hughes in the mock because of your post in the upper level. I'm very high on him as I made a post about him here right after I watched the TCU/Boise St. tape, saying I was high on him. I was placing the players with the teams and I had Jerry Hughes left over. We all know we need an OLB convert and he's one of my favorites so I slotted him in there. I'm not sure how believable that's going to sound to you but its true. I'm not here to take others work and/or copy it.
Also, no Jairus Byrd in the first round on mine because I haven't seen him play. -
Nooo you have to do one right before the draft too just so we can compare and see how much it's changed :lol:
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The top four picks make sense although I could see Seattle going OL as well WR. Interesting that you have Curry going to Cleveland. Do you think Cleveland switches to a 4-3 or sticks with a 3-4? Oher to the Redskins is interesting. Do you have him replacing Jansen? I see Houston going DB in round one right now. I don't think Chicago goes tackle in the first round two years in a row. LOVE the Jerry Hughes pick. Good mock draft. Picks make sense as of right now.
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I felt that Seattle could go either way and then I looked at the amount of balls their receivers drop and thought Crabtree for them. Regarding Cleveland, I didn't really think of that because if they stick to a 34, Curry could be kicked inside to ILB and if they go 43, he could stay at OLB. I have Oher dropping a bit because of the red flags but yeah I have him replacing Jansen. Jansen has been a mess and Samuels has been pretty good but he's getting old as well. Houston could go DB, when I first did it and went over it, I had them with Vontae Davis. I then thought about them firing their whole defensive staff and figured, they were without a scheme at the moment. In the end, they have defensive line issues as they lack a consistent pass rusher opposite of Mario Williams and Greg Hardy could be their man. They could also pass up on him because of his character issues. Chicago still needs a Tackle with John Tait getting up there in age. He's 33 and probably has a couple years left but I have them going with a Tackle early. Yeah, I was excited to write Jerry Hughes there lol. Pretty sad to say that but hey, for whatever reason, I get excited.
Wish I wouldn't have forgotten Sintim though. I'm trying to think of a place to slot him in lol. And thanks. -
Yea that makes sense with Seattle. I just figured their line is getting old and they can come back and grab someone like Iglesias in round 2. I forgot John Tait is up there in age. As long as Chris Williams's back is ok, him and Smith have the potential to be a real terrific pair of bookends. Im actually surprised you don't have Larry English in there. I don't think Brown deserves to go ahead of him.
It's not that sad about Hughes man lol. I get all geeked up about him too in a Fins uni. The havoc him and Porter could wreak. If we could come back with a NT, WR, S, and CB would be great. Pernell Phillips, the guy Boomer has talked up, would be interesting. I would love to nab Rashad Johnson in the 2nd. Same goes for Kevin Barnes. -
C'mon, man, if Oakland can constantly draft players they have never seen play, then you can of course include players you have never seen play.
Not a bad job at all, Alen. Personally, I don't get the fuss about Maualuga and I will go on record saying the team that drafts Smith in the top 10 will eventually be very sorry for it but I like the matchups. Curious that you have Taylor Mays going that high. I've seen USC last night and that hit he lay on the poor Penn State receiver will get scouts drooling. I didn't pay a lot of attention to him in previous games (and I tend to ignore USC games because I find Americans dessing themselves up as Romans and pretending to be Trojans very silly), so my question would be: Can he cover? Size, speed and hitting seem to make him a perfect Tampa 2 fit. -
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Yeah I know, I could have put him in there but I didn't want to put a guy in there that I had no knowledge of.
I actually agree with you about Maualuga and Andre Smith. I find them both overrated as well as James Lauraniatis, whom I'm missing I just now realized. The Broncos need a middle linebacker and I know the hype of Maualuga so I put him in there. Smith is overrated and was thinking of putting him at two but I still feel that he will slide and I dropped him a few more spots after thinking it over. Taylor Mays is going to go high because of his athleticism and combine numbers. The Eagles need a replacement for Dawkins so I put Mays in there.
Big fan of English and while I find Brown overrated, I think he goes in the first round. English struggled badly in the last game against LA Tech which was disappointing. -
:D haha that's awesome
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Still not sure why everyone is so hyped for Bradford over Stafford. Beanie Wells that low? Not sure about that. Someone would crap their pants if he was still around that low. AP2 he is imo.
And I know about Parcells not liking CBs, but passing on Vontae at that point imo would be a tough call. -
Stafford looks bad this yr. He would be best served to stay another year in school. He looks out of shape, in the biggest games of the yr, Alabama, and yest. Bowl game he all but dissapeared.
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I'd take Bradford over Stafford very often. Stafford is inconsistent and doesn't possess the same accuracy that Bradford does.
Chris Wells is an injury waiting to happen. I love his talent, I think highly of him but he does get injured - often. He's suspect in receiving out of the backfield and he's put it on the ground.
Vontae Davis is a player that I am not big on. I know others are but I'm not. I don't see a premier cornerback when I watch him. He's no Sean Smith. I have questions regarding Davis' ability to play man to man, long speed is a question mark, he jumps a lot of routes and he disappears quite often. Not to mention the character question marks he has.
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I'm a huge fan of Glen Coffee and I could see him going higher than people imagine. Be interesting to see where Shanahan ends up or if Denver stay with the same system because he's a very tough inside runner that reminds me of Clinton Portis with a one cut and bang style. I could envisage a scenario where a team looked at Chris Wells and looked at their own system and leapt for Coffee.
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There I said it.
I think SYSTEMS might mean that would happen. Not every team by any stretch. But if the Mike Shanahan Broncos were picking 32nd and Wells and Coffee were there and they needed a back.....I know who'd get picked and it wouldn't be Beanie.
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They definitely are a nightmare. I know its been mentioned several times here that we are not all high on Smith but I could see him going to Jacksonville. Its probably false but I recently heard that the Jaguars are looking for a Tackle after Khalif Barnes leaves this off-season and they are high on Smith.
San Francisco needs a playmaker and Maclin is just that. It may be a bit early though.
Its the Oakland Raiders. Al Davis is in love with numbers, combine numbers to be exact and Johnson may be a big combine number guy. I know he hasn't produced as much as hoped and is still living off that 'potential' tag but the Raiders need a defensive end and Al Davis is about as smart as my right pinky; mind you, I'm left handed. -
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Nice work alen.
What do you think of Shonn Greene's draft stock? Personally I think it was stupid of him to declare this year when he's likely to be drafted in the 2nd to 3rd round in my opinion. I don't see him being a workout warrior at the Combine and that won't help him one bit. Personally I think another year in college could have helped his draft status in 2010 and then really hauled in the $$.. -
Honestly, I haven't gotten to evaluate Shonn Greene because I don't have any tapes on him. I'll have to get to the bowl game sooner or later. I can't really comment on him in detail and I've only seen highlights of his game so my opinion of him is little to no value and I'm not going to give you something out of my rear lol.
Nice sig, by the way. Your work?GridIronKing34 likes this. -
That is a good mock this far out Alen, my only quibbles are:
1. KC won't go Qb at #3, they just set the NFL record for fewest sacks in a single season, by 8 missing sacks.
2. Doubtful Cinci goes Rb, they more then likely will resign Benson and then go Wr....like Macklin..
3. Did Buffalo resign Jason Peters?
4. Denver might go DT, Robertson was not very good this year.
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Definitely. The question is, how much faith do they have in Thigpen? Is he the answer? Is he the franchise QB? Not sure. Stafford could be there and who knows what a new coach is thinking. They are indeed an awful defense but there's a lot of ends and converts in this draft and could look to that in the second round. If they feel they got something in Thigpen, they could possibly go with Orakpo, even though that's high for him.
If they take Benson over Wells or Moreno, they need to get their heads examined IMO.
Thought about it as well and I'm not sure.
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I hear about the Beanie injury concern. AP had them as well when he came out. I think anyone who gets him afte pick 5 will have the steal of the draft.
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I think they did resign Peters, but not 100 on that. Even still, he played absolutely terribly this year. Him in the ProBowl is as much a laugher as Favre, maybe more.
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The Chiefs are up in the air at the moment, will they even keep Herm E?
If they do, no way they go Qb, a coach catching the glimpse of a pink slip is not going to take a guy that will be a player 2 years later.
This draft is so Tackle Rich, you would be better served going Wr or other impact position and take a Tackle at #37 or whatever.
And keep in mind Aqua, the Benglas Wr corps, specifically Ocho Adios, was injured an unproductive most of the season..Caldwell and Simpson didn't produce...plus losing TJ Whoseyourdaddy...you have to give Carson Palmer something to work with, or it will be another long year in Cinci. -
Thigpen is as good a prospect as you will find in that sort of team Alen (thank heavens we have Pennington BTW), so no matter which way they go, they will be gambling.
If they go into 09 with the same front 7, they will lose big again, and that is why they will avoid a developmental player.
42 holes to plug in that roster, you can only do so much, the Bengals could take Wells in a bid to sell tickets, but with that offense, it won't work, they revolve around Carson Palmer.
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While true Padre, not all have faith in Thigpen. One of those may be a new head coach who wants his own guy in there. They can add to the front seven, as said earlier.
The Bengals offense needs a back to keep pressure off of Palmer. The play action can only be effective when there's a productive runner in the backfield and I'm not sure that Benson is that guy. They lost roughly four games this year because Chris Perry fumbled in the fourth quarter IIRC. That's not going to cut it. They may believe in Benson but I certainly dont.
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