To kill some time I'm going to give my opinion on who I thought got very good value and who reached a bit. Come draft day we will see who is right.
I'm only limiting to two players per category. You can list more if you want.
Value
25. Cleveland Browns - David DeCastro, OG, Stanford. DeCastro will likely go top 15 great value for the best guard in the draft.
23. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina. Really like Ingram more at a 3-4 OLB where he will probably play in the NFL I think he has a good chance going fairly high. Great value pick by Tampa.
Reach
21. Cincinnati Bengals - Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina. I don't think there is a team that will take a risk on Jeffery in round 1. Bengals gambled maybe they wanted Hill? In any case Jeffery has the talent but I think this was too high for him.
19. Chicago Bears - Andre Branch, DE, Clemson. Branch Will probably be a late first I think he has what it takes to go sooner but I needed to get him. Time will tell.
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- Id have no problem taking Jeffrey at 24 or 31. If he was there it would have left me in a coin flip situation at 31 on whether I was taking Alshon or Mercilus.
- Taking Branch with Mercilus and Ingram on the board definitely makes it a reach pick imo.
- Fletcher Cox, Brandon Weeden, Rueben Randle, and Mohamed Sanu were imo reach picks. Each of those guys SHOULD go at least 20-25 picks lower where they went IMO. Just IMO. I actually like Sanu, just not in early round 2.
- Value so far: Decastro, Konz, Gilmore, Jenkins, Adams. You could make a great case for any of those players going 10-15 picks higher then they did.BuckeyeKing likes this. -
I agree Sanu was a reach, but I'm very picky with WRs and I know how they fly, so I couldn't risk it and get better value with a WR I didn't want. Considering I got all my targets (Sanu would have been taken no later than 41/44. no way he lasts to 75) it worked out, as Konz and Sanu would have flipped.
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imo, Jeffery was the 2nd best WR entering the draft. Had he weighed in at ~240, I probably wouldn't have taken him earlier than the 2nd round...but he came into the combine fit. His in game speed makes up for his 40 time and his game reminds me a lot of Brandon Marshall's.
Nick Perry was already high on my list, then when he went to the combine and put up numbers that rivaled Cam Wake, DeMarcus Ware, LaMarr Woodley, Brian Orakpo, etc... I felt like he was a sure top 15-20 pick.BuckeyeKing likes this. -
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Also want to point out GIK is a lucky SOB. That is quite the tandem he drafted. Atlanta got the best DT in the draft IMO.
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I agree with Alen. He could be right up there with Blackmon when its all said and done. He could also unwork his way out of the NFL. Hes loaded with potential though.
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Steals: Easily Kansas City with Kalil at 7 and Richardson at 11
Reach: Definitely Shea McClellan at 18! Also Michael Floyd at 9 and Nick Perry at 24 was somewhat of a reach -
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As far as Floyd goes, in MY opinion he is the 4th best WR prospect but many people who are smarter than me feel like he is the clear cut 2nd best WR so I cant say he was a reach.Stitches likes this. -
There is no way he goes past 6 in the actual NFL Draft.
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If Claiborne is gone before 5, the Bucs will get Richardson..if not I can see someone trading up for him
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Just to weigh in, I think Richardson is good value at 11. I understand that RBs aren't valued as highly as they once were (three taken No. 1 overall in 1980s, only one the past three decades) but Richardson does represent good value where the Chiefs picked him.
He's a top 5 player in the draft in terms of talent.
I don't want to be too negative, but I think Kuechly at 5 is way too high (not that he won't be good, but because he could be had later in the draft, so that pick was not maximize IMO).
Brandon Weeden going at 26 seems to be a bit of a reach too. I understand that he's polished, but his long-term potential is minimal. SICK has surrounded him with the tools to thrive right away, but is he a significant upgrade over Cassel? Like Kuechly , I think trading down and drafting Weeden later would have been the right move.Boik14 likes this. -
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I may have "reached" and even traded up to "reach", but these guys imo are all going to be studs in the NFL. Now, with the rest of my picks, I'm just gonna sit back and try and get some steals. I've got some room to play around with, now that I have depth at almost every position. -
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I understand everyone's reason for drafting a player where they did, even if I don't agree with it. After all, we all have different needs and view players differently.
To me, it comes down to draft philosophy. In Money Ball, Billy Bean talks about not caring how his picks are perceived and drafting guys where he thinks they belong, not where they are slotted. I agree with that theory, partly, in the sense that you must target who you like an ignore what everyone else is saying. You have to trust your instinct.
But on the other hand, I think getting the most value of every draft pick is essential. Maybe you can make exceptions here and there, but if a guy is going to go at 30 and you're at 20, trade down to 25 and get more picks for later. Max out your assets.
That being said, I traded away most of my picks so I can't really say ****.
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