If I was a rookie I would attend. All the personal attention you would get might help you make the team. I'm not sure I would stay away.
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I'm torn. On one hand, I am absolutely in favor of being as careful as possible and doing what we all can to control Covid and get things safe and back to normal.
But on the other, this seems like a pretty transparent ploy by the NFLPA to reduce the players workload even further than they already have, leading to even sloppier football than we've already been subject to. I think that if possible, they'd like to end all work between the Super Bowl and Training Camp, and barely practice period. -
I don't get it. At all. They went through an entire season at the height of Covid. They can't arrange safe in-house practises?
And are the NFLPA going to recommend the players also don't leave home and limit their social life? If not, I'm not sure this will have any meaning.Tin Indian, firedan and mlb1399 like this. -
The Dolphins new training facility is supposed to be a "COVID-killer" with UV lighting and advanced air filtration throughout the building, so hopefully that's put to good use. Ross spent a bundle to have the most advanced facility in the league specifically to have players in-house.
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From PFT:
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/
See the whole thing in link above but here's what was most interesting:
The league, we’re told, sees this as a potential win, a reminder that collective action for this specific unionized work force doesn’t work. The last time the NFLPA attempted to stand together against the league came in 1987, when the players went on strike, when the league hired replacements, when the regular players eventually began to cross the picket line, and when the work stoppage collapsed.
This time around, the replacement players already will be on the payroll. If/when veterans stay away, younger players will show up to take advantage of the extra opportunities to develop and to persuade coaches that they can be trusted with roster spots and playing time come September. Agents will advise clients not likely to win one of the 53 regular-season jobs to show up for the offseason program. Teams will sign undrafted free agents with a not-so-subtle understanding that they’ll show up for offseason workouts. And show up they will.
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, players already have asked teams if they will be permitted to participate in the offseason program even if their teammates boycott. There will be, as the source explained it, hundreds of players who will choose to attend and to participate.
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You would think most would be vaccinated soon, since eligibility is now opened up.
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Grocery store clerks making 1-5% of what these guys make have been showing up to work. You'd think someone making millions of dollars to play a sport, with the best access to health care and in peak physical conditioning could show up to work.
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That, to me, sounds like it has a lot more to do with a reduced preseason workload than avoiding COVID.Unlucky 13 and KeyFin like this. -
Confirmed.
https://nflpa.com/posts/whats-good-for-the-players-is-good-for-the-game
Not to be cynical but it seems at first glance that they're claiming all sorts of benefits as the results of a reduced preseason that might not have anything to do with it.
I haven't tried to find the numbers but they're citing reduced numbers of injuries overall rather than per player when we know that fewer players appeared this season due to opting out.
Additionally, and more wildly they're claiming the increased offensive numbers are a demonstration of the benefits, yet without mentioning reduced defensive numbers, or the possible effect of mostly empty stadiums.
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I have no problem with it. Players have been saying that OTAs are overrated for years and since the NFL decided to go through with a 17-game season, they're less than inclined to give teams the benefit of the doubt on safety. Remember how casually the Titans and the Raiders (especially Jon Gruden) took safety protocols last year? Nobody should be surprised if they - or other teams - maintained the same level of inattentiveness toward doing things the right way this year.
Last year's rookies are going to be the ones who are hurt the most IMO. Especially with a different OC arrangement (and scheme?). But if I was a vet, I'd be 100% on board with staying home and if I was a young gun, I would be careful about rocking the boat. -
The less practice time they have, and the less time they spend as a team and at the facility, the worse the product has gotten on the field. Its been steadily, gradually trending in that direction since the 2011 CBA when this stuff started. Its a problem.resnor likes this. -
Let me say that if a reduced preseason workload really does improve gameplay and make for better football, fewer injuries etc. then I'm all for it. The approach taken here, though, doesn't fill me with confidence.
Second, I've longed wondered about some of the restrictions on interactions between teams and players, that just seem arbitrary.
Times where coaches can't have contact with players etc. and so players have to train under their own initiative etc.
I can understand a fear about employers wanting to drain every last drop out of employees, in this case players, and not recognizing a work/life division. However, there are other ways to protect against potential abuse, and allowing greater flexibility and creativity for teams and coaches to have input and guide their players only seems a natural fit with this notion of reducing OTAs and other workouts. And that's without going into the unique aspect of professional football as a profession. -
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It's estimated that 45% of the nation is now partially or fully vaccinated and that could be enough to see some herd immunity. But for the average person, a vaccine is going to be required to return to work and normal life. The CDC had deemed the vaccines safe and up to 97% effective against hospitalization- I don't feel like there's anything left to "prove" outside the conspiracy theories.texanphinatic, Unlucky 13 and Hooligan like this. -
This virus has survival rate of 99.7.I have been working with people from 4 different states and have not seen 1 death from covid.
I have seen people die from heart attacks,strokes,etc and they tested positive and they went down as covid deaths.
I will not be a lab rat for a vaccine developed in less than 1 year.
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Globally, over 3 million people have now died from the virus, and countless millions more are still suffering from its effects, even if they survived. Any ill effects from the vaccines are a drop in the bucket compared to that. The world cannot start to transition back to some level closer to normal without it.texanphinatic likes this. -
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But once again I am sorry for buddy!I just lost my sister from cancer and was extremely angry when we could not visit her in the hospital for 6 weeks.
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I don't agree with that. -
As far as I'm concerned, by this summer, we should be at a point where whoever is considered high risk, will have gotten the vaccine and will be protected from those who don't get it. I may get it down the road but not going to rush into it by any means. -
The narrative that the vaccine is only months old is completely wrong. The RNA carrier was developed back when SARS was 1st introduced. It's been worked on for years. With the genome sequencing advances, this is how vaccines are going to be done going forward. Once they figure out what the sequence is they just attach it to the carrier mechanism. Maybe if the politicians didn't use the vaccine as a scare tactic in the election, even to the point of saying that they were going to have independent analysis done by their own teams of doctors, their narrative is what's set the stage for being afraid. As soon as they won, all that disappeared and its "oh now it's safe". Politicians use fear to control the masses. And it worked too good this time.
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It's a race between the vaccine and mutation right now - especially in the USA.Unlucky 13 and Fireland like this.
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