Pretty much agree with the exception of Martin. The guy is a rookie getting used to the right side. He has improved since the preseason IMO.

 

I think this makes the erroneous assumption that Tannehill is always under pressure. He hasn't been. Yes, the offensive line isn't playing up to the level they probably should be, and there have been breakdowns in protection. But to assume Ryan is constantly running for his life out there is a bit over the top.

 

Our problem is that we put more effort into bashing the players and *****ing in general than we put into actually understanding what's happening on the field.

 

Reality is that Tanny is not where he needs to be yet

 

LOL, our friggin problem is we have an OC that still thinks we can run the ball to the right side of this offensive line where we have a rookie that is mediocre at best as a RT. When we run left it works but we rarely run left. We also do not have any type of A List running back. Bush cannot run between the tackles, thats been proven and no, the Oakland game does not count. The entire league , Pop Warner included, runs inbetween the tackles on Oakland. Miller does decent, when going left and when he gets a chance. Honest, take a good look at the better running backs, if there is no hole they go another way or at least have the ability to push the pile and break basic tackles. We do not have one running back, save Thomas, that can do that and Thomas by any stretch of the imagination is a backup type running back.

This team is setup to pass with the exception we do not have a number one reciever. We do not have running backs that put a scare in anyone, people better accept that fact. St. Louis has possible the worst offensive line in the NFL and already has been plagued by injuries along the Oline but they have Steven Jackson and a kid named Richardson. Seattle has crap for an Oline but they have Beastmode. The list goes on and on.

Same like I said about Olines last year. Colts without Manning were horrible. but when Manning was there their Oline was always flaunted as one of the best. Denver, perhaps the worst pass blocking, supposedly, Oline in the NFL. Bring in Manning ? Magically they look all world now, same 5 guys. No, we need a good RB on this football team and Bush, Thomas and Although Miller is still not had his chance, we still do not have one.

I sat home and called everyone one of our running plays and I am no where near a coach. Mike Sherman is as predicatable as a good watch. Someday someone is going to wake up and realize " Hey, we cannot run the ball to the right " When that happens watch, the running game will change. It will be much better once this smoke and mirrors Bush guy is gone also.

 

OMG, Thank You. If you really look at things, most haven't a clue

 

so help me understand… what is going on on the field from your view.

 

he has at times… but he has played well at times as well… it is a growth process IMO

 

Our problem is still.??

That we treat beating the jets like its our Super Bowl...awwwww, cute little dolphins can't get up for games after you play the ittie bittie jets.

Problem is we had an angry attitude and we couldnt figure out how to keep it.

 

Bull. One of the best if not the BEST run blocking Oline in the league but pass blocking ? no way. When Tebow was there most of their problems were blamed on their inability to pass block. Denver never has had any accolades for its pass blocking until Peyton showed up. OK, lets take Chicago OK ? another horrible Oline. A guy named Cutler shows up and a guy named Marshal shows up and bam, all of a sudden their crap Oline looks like all world. You obviously do not know what you are talking about my friend. Show me one place or at anytime the Denver Broncos were given credit, outside of Manning this year, of having a good pass blocking Oline.

Lets put it this way. Basic football 101. If you do not have a running game or AT LEAST FRIGGIN DO PLAY ACTION, teams will stack the box and no team on the planet earth will run the ball. We have ZERO play action passing and ZERO running backs that threaten anyone. If you know football that spells one thing, you have to pass and we have ZERO number one wide receivers and no, Hartline and Bess or not number one type receivers. Bush is great, on occasion, on some plays. Outside of that, no, he is not a Gore, Jackson, Johnson, Jackson Buf, etc, Bush is a proto type once in awhile, great outside runner.

Name one running back we have that can push the pile. Name one running back we have that can make a good run out of nothing. Chris Johnson got most of his yards on his own Sunday. His best runs were done completely on his own. Kinda like the plays he made successful where there were no holes. Like a certain play where he went right and there was nothing and went back left only to score a TD. That had nothing to do with our defense being bad but it had all todo with Chris Johnson being a great running back. Watch the game another ten years then get back with me.

Not saying our entire offense was not flat yesterday but I am saying we do not have a threat at running back, none at all.

 

If you're saying its only possible Mike Pouncey isn't terrible, then you're probably not in a position where you need to be starting threads on the topic.

Yesterday the line wasn't by any means bad. The issue, as it has been basically all season long, is Incognito and Martin. Long had a good game and seemed to respond well to last week against a quality pass rusher. Regardless of John Jerry being "fat" it's pretty much negligible. He's been quite consistently solid and the only guy on the line who hasn't had an awful game besides Pouncey.

 

I agree somewaht but will add we have an offensive co ordinator that is clueless on using it. His play calling can be timed the same as the sun coming up at a certain hour everyday. Our defense was put in real bad situations yesterday and Sherman had nothing to help it other then _________________________ fill in the name running right or Hartline to the sideline or Bess to the sideline. Thats about the extent of Shermans playbook. Lets put it this way. Every team has bad games and OC have to adjust. Sherman could have a Ballistic missle shoved up his rear end and he will stick to his same game plan. He never adjusted at ATM and his play calling got him fired, look it up, its all on the internet and his playcalling has not changed. Its Mike Shermans way or no way. Philbin has done nothing to change that either and I like Philbin a lot.

 

That doesn't mean he had a bad game, or it means that he's only possibly not terrible.

I'll accept your apology on the condition you make some sort of good faith effort to change?

 

I think DPate has a lot of knowledge for the game, the only times I feel comfortable disagreeing with him are on personnel decisions or college prospects..

 

Where is your write up about yesterday DJ? Haven't seen one yet...

 

So I'm still trying to figure out a good reason why our team got blown out at home?

 

Being amember of the human race and residing on the planet earth. There is no reason other then this. Tenn wanted this game a lot more then we did on the field. Beyond that, hey, you are the internet God, you attempt to tell us why. I imagine you do enjoy fishing.

 

I didnt start a thread, didnt think I needed to..I posted this in another thread.

"Can someone please tell Ryan Tannehill that he's athletic, and allowed to use his legs to make plays..

This is how you win games, not by just throwing the ball to a target, but by getting first downs any which way you can, by scrambling in the pocket, foreseeing the rush and making an adjustment, take off for christs sakes and get involved in the game.

Think we need to look at some backs in this draft..one with an overall good skillset, natural running instincts, and some speed..Stephan Taylor is a nice package of running back skills..eyes have been on him for a couple years.

We're gonna need to start acquiring guys who have a different level of passion than the norm, with the state of the culture, it's gonna have to come to players caring enough to turn it around and come together, on their own.

I don't know if having most of your leadership counsel players up for free agency at one time is condusive to a team atmosphere, not sure if that can work.

I don't know which, or how many players who are up for free agency, want to be Miami dolphins..

And I don't know how players who may want to test free agency, could ever help form a championship caliber mindset.

They lost to a similar type skillset that cut them up last week, no containment of the Qb to the pocket, and slow reaction skills behind the Los by our front 7..

I don't know, maybe when you shoot your load defensively the prior week, and nothing works, maybe confidence takes a big hit in the locker room..

Two historic losses in a row is not good...

Gotta put Ireland back on the spot, as well as a lot of the players..who wants to be here is the question right??

Thursday nite we either win, or start looking at the offseason."

 

It all comes down to that there is a problem. Who cares who knows what and yadda yadda. Most of that is emotion talking and therefore cannot really be taken seriously. All we know is that we have been mediocre to bad for some time now. Needs to be fixed.

 

Or pro players.

 

So yea, about Tannehill. He does need to run more often. I think that seeing Locker take off so many times against us compounded that thought. Tannehill busted his tail down the field to make that tackle. Where is that speed when the pocket brakes down or everyone is covered?

That is probably the question of the decade Dj..."Who wants to be a Miami Dolphin". Plenty used to want to play here...big city, girls, beaches, and good athletics. The heat are thriving here, there must be a reason those big three choose to play in Miami.

 

I am??.... Cool..

With a loss like that, I think asking questions about it is not taboo..

I've come up with this.

1) what you said, but then I ask myself why one team wanted it more than us, we ain't sh&$.

2) The leadership counsel and most of the teams core players are free agents, and because their humans, cannot garner the focus needed to become a team with the right makeup.

3) We lost a perfectly beautiful pissed off attitude to play with since we beat the jets.

4) our players came out of the tunnel a four and four team, 1 game out of first place, and saw an empty stadium, and thought to themselves, if our fans have no passion or care, why should we.

 

leadership council ? Man, you been watching too many reruns from HBO. That was good tv, it ended there. Final decisions are still decided by the staff. If players wish to state their opinion thats fine, it means nothing.
The players could care less about an empty stadium. Now, if their paychecks were empty with all zeros on them, yeah, I could see that affecting things.
Most of the players on this team know S Florida is the toilet bowl of NFL fans. I will not go into why because I would be banned for saying the truth on what it is. This stadium is never going to be packed ever again regardless of the teams record. If I was Ross I would take the offer to move to LA.
South Florida has gone in the toilet bowl fan wise and please, do not give me the Heat sell out games. If the Heat had 80,000 plus seats no, they would not sell out games. The Marlins ? LMAO, no. South Florida has changed a tad since the Marino days if you know what I mean.

Sure it would be great if the players had a full stadium but no way shape or form does empty stands infuence the outcome of a game. Like I said, I would get into the reason but then I would be banned for making racist comments probably.

 

Our football culture is poor..A lot of men who have been successful in other places, failed in this town, maybe it's time to look at ourselves before we lose the one thing we all love.

 

instead of debating you about how I disagree with you about culture and our stadium, please read this article.

http://seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/stadium/newnham04.html

 

I really don't see players not wanting to come here, I worry about them once their here.

 

we have a lot more problems than just the OL. like they always say, it all starts at the top.

 

Dude, I'm gonna FIND your *** at the next game! You're goin' DOWN!

;)

 

Just curious, do we at some point this season try Martin at left tackle to see if he can handle the position. We really need to find out in case Long walks, and I am not insinuating that we don't try to resign him. In case we can't afford to keep Long we need to know how to address the offensive line in the off season. We can't put all of the rushing woes on the offensive line though, we don't really have a good running back. I agree with some other posters that Bush is not a between the tackle runner and should be used as a change of pace running back.

 

I don't know that you're going to learn anything you don't already know. He needs to get stronger and he needs to be better/more consistent with his technique. Maybe going back to the left side would make the technique end of it easier, but I'm not so sure you'd see a big improvement. I think you'd have a problem getting him out there unless Long got hurt.

 

As I said, an question answered with another question. Endzone LMAO

 

Sounds awful to say but if we do I hope it's with Moore at QB bc it's not going to be pretty.

 

Who was under center when we beat the Jets, Moore or Tannehlips ? Listen, this kid Tannehill is a decent kid, not a bad QB but a starter ? Well maybe for us but not for the majority of NFL teams. Sorry to ruffle people feathers here on reality. I would take Moore over the rookie any day of the week. Anyone that doubts that see the Colts game and the Tenn game. Yes it was a total team effort but Moore has the faith of the team. Tannehill has the teams correct answers to the press. I need not say more.