Positives/Negatives & Hartline

"Dolphins1Beatles wrote:

Positives:
-Chad Henne is solid. He still has some learning but Dolfans no longer need to lose any sleep at QB. At least for now.
-Pat White and the option. No, it's not trickery or the "wildpat", it's the option and he did a good job. Will it work even better in the future? Who knows, but it should scare opponents.
-Camarillo has the best hands on the team, we need to throw to him more.
-We lost, but by 10 points against an amazing team, in New England, after the bye week.
-Rookies Smith and Davis did a good job. Davis stole that ball from a future hall of famer, with another future hall of famer throwing it. He's only 21.

Negatives:
-Pass rush did not do well, and Porter was non-existant, he had 0's across the board.
-Running game was nothing special, needs to get going again.
-WR-obvious. But Where was Hartline, if he is our #1 WR we have to throw to him more. He dropped one, but had another for 18 yards. We wont know if he is a great WR unless we get the ball to him more. This is our main glaring issue, and hopefully they go after someone aggressively.

The Pats got Moss in 2007, we should do something similar. You can't become an elite team through the draft alone, a big FA move in the offseason is key. That's not for a while though. Hopefully we can make the playoffs with what we have, I think we can, our run game needs to turn it on for that to happen.

I am not sure it is our running game or Hennings play calling.

Vontae has been very impressive and he has come through in the clutch for us. Hell even on that play where he got hurt he helped knock the ball out of Moss' hands.

Vontae Davis got floored by MOss, but it be cool.

Play calling is god awful. 2 min offense is pathetic.

-lack of deep ball
-lack of exotic blitzes
-getting too cute

is it just me or henne is reluctant to throw the deep ball? it seems like everytime he does a play action, he throws the ball to davone bess or to the tight end. Its not that thats a bad thing but IMO we need to be more explosive and one way to do that is to atleast try to throw the ball deep.

also i think we should do more screen plays.. TE screen or RB screen. Forget the screen to Bess. Bess is no Welker.

my 2 cents

i remember reading rumors last off season about the phins getting miles austin or anquan boldin. id love either one of those two right now. if we got both, id probably faint.

"eric wrote:

i remember reading rumors last off season about the phins getting miles austin or anquan boldin. id love either one of those two right now. if we got both, id probably faint.

Dallas will probably resign Austin. Boldin is a possibility.

Dallas probably will do everything to keep Miles Austin. I wish though!

And Boldin and Arizona are on the outs big time, maybe we can get him. We should. I don't even know why they still have him. They don't like each other, and they have Fitzgerald. He said in the past he'd like to play for the Phins.

I'd give my left nut for Boldin.

"Frumundah Finnatic wrote:

I'd give my left nut for Boldin.

Let's give them Porter and a draft pick.

Boldin, the guy who is ALWAYS hurt? He's as talented as they come, but he often has nagging injuries. He's def. not in the mold of a guys BP likes.

dallas loves austin

"Frumundah Finnatic wrote:

I'd give my left nut for Boldin.

I'd give your left nut for Boldin. Heck I'll throw in your right one too!

:lol::up:

Porter broke through a double team and forced Brady's errant pass on a key drive at the beginning, he wasn't totally non-existant. I also noticed the lack of deep looks. I kept my eye on Ginn when he is in, and he is clearly a decoy as Henne immediately looks to the short route first and then throws it.

They need to try a big throw to Hartline and Camarillo next game.

It wouldn't hurt the deep route if there was an open receiver there to throw to. :lol:

Seriously, I agree that we need to look down the field more often, but most of our WR's don't have the speed needed to be really effective on those routes, and Henne has frequently not been getting the time to let the deep play develop. He is looking short an awful lot, but I have a lot of faith that he's doing it because the deep routes are covered and not just out of habit.

"Fin Fan In Cali wrote:

I am not sure it is our running game or Hennings play calling.

two really good questions to ask @ this point are:
1) why is the game being so poorly manged?
2) why are all our receivers suddenly dropping the ball?

Trade for Boldin in the offseason. A real receiver will make this a top ten offense.

At this point, I'd prefer Vincent Jackson to Boldin. Boldin can't stay healthy and Jackson will be a FA after this year.

Im all over the BUY a wide out position. So many busts in the NFL from the draft. When you have the opportunity to BUY a AAA STUD do it...

I agree on picking up Boldin, would make a nice addition, but the fact that we don't utilize our good receivers already kind of makes that a non-issue, in my opinion.

Camarillo barely ever sees the ball, yet every time it hits him he makes the play. I can't figure it out.

Hartline looks good but he dropped a key pass, which was a hard to catch ball maybe, but you still need to catch them.

Also, Henne goes to Bess so often it's too easy to read. If he spread it out more it might open up the field a little bit, allowing a bigger passing game (Which is all we need in my opinon to turn these Ls into Ws.)

"Frumundah Finnatic wrote:

I'd give my left nut for Boldin.[/QUOTE

Hell id give my pinkie for Marvin Harrison right about Now:wink2:

We need to make a hard run at Vincent Jackson this offseason. I don't know how realistic stealing him from the Chargers would be, but he could do for us what Plaxico did for the Giants(hopefully minus the gun).

We can blame Cameron for the WR situation. He gave away Wes Welker for a 2 and 7. One of those picks is no longer even in the NFL. The other is not nearly as good as Welker is.