Ouch !

 

even more amazing considering Long wasn't the one going up against Wilfork and Haynesworth

 

I can't understand how Sparano justifies having Carey and Colombo start. They're not the team's best linemen so why are they starting?

 

Long will only improve. Hes class. Missing the whole of pre-season hasnt helped. Incognito isnt the worst but those damn penalties!

 

He got those penalties because Haynesworth destroyed him.

 

I thought the OL played well for the most part. A little disappointed in Long's performance, but I'm not surprised considering he didn't play in preseason.

 

Long is the least of our worries on that line. He will be fine.

 

Pretty much, Offense put up good numbers, maybe some leaks on the OL's part but people are forgetting we played from behind for most of the night.

 

Because right behind them on the depth chart is John Jerry.

 

i agree they didnt do that bad , even colombo

 

i think its garner

 

This is like trying to point out the nicest Nazi.

 

Nah, that's easy. It's the lovable Colonel Klink -

 

For a team that runs a spread offense, its really what I expect.

 

NE's strength are their D Tackles. When you look at our Guards it was always going to hard. NE have no decent Pass Rushers either from the ends. With Long below par and Columbo being well.....a shoe in it could have been worse! Pouncey wont face many harder opening day games. He did a decent job.

 

Thing is, the OL was good enough to have won the game for us, they allowed Henne enough time to make plays all over the field, and that is all you really can ask for in this style of offense, 57 attempts is a huge number of pass plays, coupled with no real running game and the patsies could just play pass all night and not worry about leaving a gap for a Rb to exploit.

 

Clearly, we didn't watch the same game.

4 sacks, 9 hits, 13 pressures. That's 26 times out of 57 attempts that Henne had to hurry or was dumped, or got one more bruise. 26 times out of 57 that Henne had to do something other than what he intended with the play.

That's lousy by any standard.

 

Yes, we did, 4 sacks on 57 attempts is good work, 24 pts (should have been 31) is also good work, the rest of it is pfft time Nabo.

IMHO anyway, the end result is all that matters, this is the real lesson that I took away from Cutler's improbable run to the NFC title game whilst being sacked 3 times per game on average, that is the difference between being effective, and being perfect.

 

Dismissing the problem isn't going to address it; neither is modeling to the lowest common denominator.

And you only "addressed by dismissal" 4 of the 26 big problems by the OL this game; what about the other 22? If they don't matter, why do they keep track of them?

 

But a pressure could be the same as the lineman "getting beat" and Henne having to step up in the pocket.

 

I merely look at results.

They keep track of them to give fans something to talk about, to my view anyway, 427 yds 2 Td's + 1 rushing, that is the bottom line.

 

Or Henne stepping up and into a pressure,

 

Probably not that bad, because you aren't going to face that team every week, but 40-50 sacks is what I would expect this year.

 

But this is a thread about the OL, and we were discussing just that.

 

Gnats and camels.

If the OL were ineffective, Henne would not have hung that on the pats D, study a stat line to the exclusion of outcomes is MLB thinking.

NFL does not work that way.

 

Something like that number, Henne was dumped 41 times in 2010, so 10 sacks over 16 games with even more passing attempts makes sense.

I also semi expect 2 starters to be injured, that is just how it has went for us the last 2 yrs.

 

I'll give you an idea. 0 sackes, 3 pancakes, 1 hit, and 1 pressure. When Jake looks at the tape, you can bet your a$$ he make sure it doesn't happen again and he is going to maul guys next week.

 

Gotta love a Jewish Nazi.

 

Another wasted pick by this regime!

 

:pity:

 

Post game interview should have just been one reporter holding up a picture of Bryant McKinnie and Brian Waters.

 

:lol: Whatever dude.

 

Kinda of fake stats about Pouncey.

The Pats run a 4-3 so Pouncey's assignment would be double-teaming Haynesworth or Wilfork. Watch the game on replay, NE DT consistedly beat the double like red-headed stepchildren

He does pull better then anybody else on the line, if Columbo doesn't get blown backwards on end arounds Bush runs for major chunk yardage.

Overall Pouncey did a good job, but having to assist the right side of the line allowed NE to delay blitz.

 

Long will dominate on Sunday.

He won't have two straight below average weeks.

 

I hope if they do not improve, (and I still maintain Carey is doing worse than Colombo, although PFF does not agree), that Tony will make a move and plug in Cook and Garner at RG and RT respectively.