Predicting the 53 (8/5/11)

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StitchesStitchesluxury_boxOP
Aug 5, 2011, 12:15 PM

The Dolphins finally hit the practice field as a complete team last night, giving us our first look at Reggie Bush, Kevin Burnett, Matt Moore and the rest of the veteran newcomers.

And with full training camp finally under way, now seems like a good time to take our first crack at predicting the Dolphins’ 53-man roster (plus practice squad). In most years it is folly to predict a roster this early in training camp – final cuts won’t be made until Sept. 4 – but the Dolphins’ roster is mostly set right now.

They return a strong core of veterans, filled in a few holes the past two weeks in free agency, and don’t have too many position battles. Plus, with the lockout wiping out all summer practices, Tony Sparano said he wants to minimize roster and lineup shuffling as much as possible to allow his starters to form cohesion during camp.

Of course, the Dolphins will always scour the waiver wire for hidden gems and shuffle a few players in and out of the bottom of the roster. But the players you see out there today are, for the most part, the players you will see on Sept. 12.

“We always have our eyes open,” Sparano said yesterday. “But the players that are here right now, we’re preparing to go into the New England Patriot game and play with.”

So let’s hop to it. Our early prediction for the 53-man roster (and practice squad):

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2011/08/05/predicting-the-53-taking-a-crack-at-the-dolphins-roster-and-practice-squad-entering-the-regular-season/

Couple surprise cuts in there, and a couple people I think should get cut he has making the team.

It's mostly folly until at least the 2nd preseason game, but just something interesting to read.

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padre31padre31luxury_box
Aug 5, 2011, 12:21 PM

Someone needs to tel BVP Matt Copa was waived...

And Ike Francis is having a strong camp, do not know if that translates, but he has been beasting.

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Aug 5, 2011, 12:24 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Someone needs to tel BVP Matt Copa was waived...

And Ike Francis is having a strong camp, do not know if that translates, but he has been beasting.

Not according to miamidolphins.com

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178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

Alex13Alex13subscriber
Aug 5, 2011, 12:28 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Someone needs to tel BVP Matt Copa was waived...

And Ike Francis is having a strong camp, do not know if that translates, but he has been beasting.

really i havent heard one word about him either way

PhinsRDbestPhinsRDbestforum_veteran
Aug 5, 2011, 12:32 PM

John Jerry :pity:

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Aug 5, 2011, 12:41 PM

Roberto! :up:

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padre31padre31luxury_box
Aug 5, 2011, 12:47 PM

"Al13 wrote:

really i havent heard one word about him either way

I have, he and Spears are competing Spears will have one sack, Ike will have 2.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Aug 5, 2011, 12:48 PM

"Stitches wrote:

Not according to miamidolphins.com

Have they gotten around to mentioning that Martin retired?

The day they signed Micah Kiah, they waived Kopa.

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Aug 5, 2011, 01:16 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Have they gotten around to mentioning that Martin retired?

The day they signed Micah Kiah, they waived Kopa.

Both on the roster. Can't find any proof Kopa was waived. You got some?

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178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

ZannoZannoNew Member
Aug 5, 2011, 01:27 PM

Omar has talked up Brackett

ALalen1New Member
Aug 5, 2011, 01:34 PM

"Zanno wrote:

Omar has talked up Brackett

So this means he won't be on the roster?

;)

Paul 13Paul 13moderator
Aug 5, 2011, 01:59 PM

I'm really glad we have that problem at WR, if indeed true (lets see the preseason games of course). Polite cut? That would surprise the hell out of me, new offense or not.

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MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Aug 5, 2011, 10:55 PM

"KingMotion wrote:

We have a serious problem at WR. Pruitt looking good, so is Carter. Gates is doing his thing. And Wallace isn't looking terrible. 7 Wr's? Not usually known to happen. Last year we had 5 and 2 weren't NFL quality. Gates sticks. Moore is probably on the outs. Pruitt also plays ST so he may stick. I want to see more of Carter as well. These preseason games are really important.

Just hope we don't have another Armstrong situation.

Well, this is kind of a good problem and probably why we never went after any UFAs at WR. 6 Wrs is possible I guess, but not 7. Wallace maybe ahead of Pruitt and Carter right now, but any 2 of the 4 between those 3 and Moore could make it.
I don't expect we keep 3 TEs plus an H Back like Volin says. I'd say we keep Polite and one less TE. I guess it is more likely Polite can fill the Vickers role right now than Clay can. Clay isn't going to be the blocker Polite is, right off the bat.

I'd also say we keep 6 corners and 4 safeties because good cover men are harder to come by. I'd rather keep Sapp as the 6th corner and cut Culver.

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PSGPSGforum_veteran
Aug 6, 2011, 09:32 AM

Here's what jumps out to me:
1. No Big Lou? I really hope he doesn't get cut. I have a hard time believing we will keep 3 TE plus Clay at H-Back. My guess is either Shuler or Brackett is cut and Big Lou stays.
2. By most accounts Sheets is looking good. Could he beat out Grigsby or Hilliard. Not sure Hilliard should be getting a free ride, but it seems like he is a Sparano favorite.
3. Sparano and Co. have some tough decisions to make at the WR position. The only problem at WR is we have lots of depth but no real #2.
4.When all is said and done, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jimmy Wilson higher up the depth chart. Dare I say maybe even starting at FS?

PSGPSGforum_veteran
Aug 6, 2011, 09:32 AM

"MrClean wrote:

Well, this is kind of a good problem and probably why we never went after any UFAs at WR. 6 Wrs is possible I guess, but not 7. Wallace maybe ahead of Pruitt and Carter right now, but any 2 of the 4 between those 3 and Moore could make it.
I don't expect we keep 3 TEs plus an H Back like Volin says. I'd say we keep Polite and one less TE. I guess it is more likely Polite can fill the Vickers role right now than Clay can. Clay isn't going to be the blocker Polite is, right off the bat.

I'd also say we keep 6 corners and 4 safeties because good cover men are harder to come by. I'd rather keep Sapp as the 6th corner and cut Culver.

The problem I see in the WR corps is I don't see a real #2.

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Aug 6, 2011, 10:09 AM

"PSG wrote:

The problem I see in the WR corps is I don't see a real #2.

And why isn't Hartline a real #2?

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22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

PSGPSGforum_veteran
Aug 6, 2011, 05:04 PM

"Stitches wrote:

And why isn't Hartline a real #2?

Cuz he's not good enough. I like Hartline, I just don't think he has proven to be a bonafide #2 yet. It looks as though this regime disagrees with me, so hopefully he turns the corner this season, drops less balls and proves his worth.

JajJajNew Member
Aug 6, 2011, 05:08 PM

He's actually pretty solid, he just needs a seam-stretching threat like Clay on the field. If you're looking for a true number two, there aren't many that are inexpensive, fairly consistent, great quickness, route-running, solid speed. He's an underrated player and considering #2 WR is arguably the 10th-11th most important position on offense he's fine.

Bring this man back into the fold if you want some real leadership on this team.

sonnsonnsubscriber
Aug 6, 2011, 06:23 PM

If Jerry gets cut it'll be yet another swing and miss on the offensive line. Wasn't Sparano supposed to be an expert in that field?

PSGPSGforum_veteran
Aug 6, 2011, 06:49 PM

"sonn wrote:

If Jerry gets cut it'll be yet another swing and miss on the offensive line. Wasn't Sparano supposed to be an expert in that field?

Sparano isn't the one doing the drafting.

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