President says they may go back to Throwback look full time.
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DolPhinPhan7forum_veteranOPhttp://dailysnark.com/miami-dolphins-team-president-leaves-door-open-possible-return-classic-logo/
Team president Tom Garfinkel addressed the possibility after much was made about Adam Gase and other players wearing the old-school logo during practice, saying they’re committed to the current look for now.
“Yeah, as of right now, that’s the plan,” Garfinkel said, via the Palm Beach Post. “There have been fans that certainly love that aspect of the uniform. And we love it too. There is a long time frame. You can’t just change uniforms on a whim. So I’d say we’re listening to the fans and evaluating everything. We’re open-minded. But as of right now there is no plan to change.”
The Dolphins also have one of the best throwback uniforms in the league, which they’ve worn for the past two seasons. The look pays homage to the 1966 squad, and features a darker aqua color throughout the jersey.
Those in Miami are huge fans of the throwbacks with some petitioning to make them permanent. The Dolphins have heard the response from their supporters and will wear them twice in 2017.
I don't mind the no helmet Dolphin logo. It's modern. The sun looks better and the it looks like a real Dolphin. The 90's/00's Dolphins logo already looks dated. I actually cringe when I see people rocking it at games. I have some memorabilia around the house and in my car with that logo (Because it's been their logo for most of my adult life) but I like the new one better.
The classic logo (whether the Dolphin is covering the sun or only part of the Sun) is really dated. But the look has retro appeal now. I went to a game in Buffalo in December and rocked an early 90's Irving Fryer authentic jersey and an LA Logo jacket to the game. I prefer that darker Aqua. I wouldn't have done that in past years, but the success of the throwback unis these past two seasons have made the old look more mainstream.
I really hope they don't ditch the current logo. But I do think the darker looking jersey's they use during their throwback games is much better.
So many teams go back to retro logo after changing. Detroit Pistons, New York Jets, New York Islanders, Toronto Maple Leafs, Edmonton Oilers, Philly 76ers, Houston Astros, Toronto Blue Jays etc etc etc.
It looks like our Dolphins will be doing the same.
djphinfansubscriberI did the throwbacks like cray, as long as they where the black cleats, but it has to be those specific unis, none of the crap we had prior to the change a few years back..
aren't we undefeated in the throwbacks?
dirtylandryNew MemberJesus, my man cave is filled with new logo stuff
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btfu149forum_veteran"djphinfan wrote:
I did the throwbacks like cray, as long as they where the black cleats, but it has to be those specific unis, none of the crap we had prior to the change a few years back..
aren't we undefeated in the throwbacks?
We lost to the Giants on Monday Night Football in their first appearance
btfu149forum_veteranHonestly, I love the new logo and jerseys, I hope we keep them. I also love the throwbacks, but I think switching to them full-time would make it less special when we wear them. I would support wearing the old jerseys 4 times a year and getting a white old school one for 2 of those.
SamphinNew MemberNever once did Garfinkel EVER say anything close to what the title of this post says he did. This whole thing has snowballed due to reporters reading between lines and who the hell knows what else.
That being said, I like the throwbacks...but only as that...throwbacks.
CD13subscriberI personally like the new uniforms and colors. I hope they don't make any major changes. I would like to see a black or blue alternative jersey instead of orange.
KeyFinforum_veteranWhen I saw the title to this thread, I was thinking it was yet another Trump piece on how he's messing things up. What a relief that it wasn't.
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btfu149forum_veteran"CD13 wrote:
I personally like the new uniforms and colors. I hope they don't make any major changes. I would like to see a black or blue alternative jersey instead of orange.
I would think a navy alternate jersey would be awesome
FinsterNew MemberMy biggest problems with the new uni's is #1, the tail going up and #2 colors are too light.
Imo, it looks weak and soft, which is why JJ changed things, he understands what the psychological effect of looking soft and weak can have.
Tin Indianforum_veteranNever really cared for the cartoon logo that came in with Jimmy Johnson. I like the new uni's pretty well but they are a distant 2nd to the throwbacks for me. The throwbacks look like football uniforms.
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rafaelforum_veteranWhen Dolphins are about to attack the tail goes up. Knowledgable people would never characterize that as weak.
"rafael wrote:
When Dolphins are about to attack the tail goes up. Knowledgable people would never characterize that as weak.
The tail goes up so it can go down.
So if you're designing a logo you can put the tail in either position and represent aggressiveness. Either it's getting ready for a downstroke or you're depicting it at the end of the downstroke when the force on the water or prey is the greatest.
Personally I'm OK with the logo, but I do think it could be better. And I'd personally change tail position too because most humans don't interpret that upward arching position of the dolphin as aggressive (even if a dolphin were to).
rafaelforum_veteranI'm not a big fan of dumbing things down for people. I wouldn't change the tail position to accommodate low information people.
Here's an interesting wrinkle to dolphin tail position I wasn't aware of:
http://jeb.biologists.org/content/jexbio/119/1/265.full.pdf
"Dolphins accelerate during the downstroke and decelerate during the upstroke: the net hydrodynamic force in the animal is always positive during the downstroke and negative during the upstroke"
So actually the position we're seeing the dolphin in is when it's decelerating the most! (I thought it was like with fish where they can accelerate on both strokes..)
Anyway which tail position you prefer comes down to whether you want to depict say a boxer when he's getting ready to punch or when he's punching. I think I'd prefer when he's punching but both work.
rafaelforum_veteranPersonally, 'about to attack' seems the most logical way to depict a logo, but I wouldn't have had a problem if they'd gone with the tail down. I saw both depictions and felt the tail up looked better, but I wouldn't have complained about it either way. I do find the argument that tail up looks weak as very uninformed and ignorant.
FinsterNew Member"rafael wrote:
Personally, 'about to attack' seems the most logical way to depict a logo, but I wouldn't have had a problem if they'd gone with the tail down. I saw both depictions and felt the tail up looked better, but I wouldn't have complained about it either way. I do find the argument that tail up looks weak as very uninformed and ignorant.
Your going on an assumption that isn't true though, the upward position isn't indicative of attack, and it breaks with tradition, and to humans, who are the only ones looking at it, lol, it doesn't look aggressive.
BTW, who cares whats real, lol, we aren't representing actual dolphins, it's played on terra firma, a professional football teams logo/uni aught to look aggressive imo.
My problem with the tail down position is that it looks like a tame dolphin performing a jump for a crowd. That gets reinforcedby wearing the helmet.
So I think the new logo looks less cutesy and more natural.
However since Dolphins get portayed as cutesy so often in our culture they lack the implication of aggression other animal mascots get.
Coral ReeferNew MemberYES! Get rid of the crap blue whale logo. God I hate that thing.
Back to our true Iconic logo. Can't happen soon enough.
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djphinfansubscribergo back to the deep rich aqua of the 72 and 73 season, when we were the best, and the whites from that era..like the thanksgiving at Dallas scheme, and we have a winner everyone would love.
rafaelforum_veteran"Pauly wrote:
My problem with the tail down position is that it looks like a tame dolphin performing a jump for a crowd. That gets reinforcedby wearing the helmet.
So I think the new logo looks less cutesy and more natural.
However since Dolphins get portayed as cutesy so often in our culture they lack the implication of aggression other animal mascots get.
Absolutely, our old logo was crap. If it wasn't for nostalgia the vast majority of people would never want that cartoony POS.
#1 fanforum_veteranWould be super pumped if we went back
RickysabeastNew Member"dirtylandry wrote:
Jesus, my man cave is filled with new logo stuff
Yeah I'm with you! Quit vacillating on the unis. Can't be half pregnant. Pick one and stick with it. Love the throwback game look but let's just make a decision and stick with it. If it's the throwbacks make it the throwbacks all the times. If its the new stuff make it the new stuff all the time. I mean let's be honest here. No one is a fan because of any iteration of our logo and our colors. We have grown fond of them over time but every person on here wishes we were something like the Miami Makos or Hammerheads or something with the uniforms from Any Given Sunday. Don't jump me. I agree that I'll now quickly come to blows with people that dis the aqua and orange and our Dolphin but we're all Phin fans here let's just be honest.
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RickysabeastNew Member"cbrad wrote:
The tail goes up so it can go down.
So if you're designing a logo you can put the tail in either position and represent aggressiveness. Either it's getting ready for a downstroke or you're depicting it at the end of the downstroke when the force on the water or prey is the greatest.
Personally I'm OK with the logo, but I do think it could be better. And I'd personally change tail position too because most humans don't interpret that upward arching position of the dolphin as aggressive (even if a dolphin were to).
Wow. An actual conversation about artistic style to make Flipper look mean. I mean I'm a Dolphins fan but c'mon.
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Fin Dforum_veteran"cbrad wrote:
The tail goes up so it can go down.
So if you're designing a logo you can put the tail in either position and represent aggressiveness. Either it's getting ready for a downstroke or you're depicting it at the end of the downstroke when the force on the water or prey is the greatest.
Personally I'm OK with the logo, but I do think it could be better. And I'd personally change tail position too because most humans don't interpret that upward arching position of the dolphin as aggressive (even if a dolphin were to).
Here's the ferocious tale down look....
look how poised he is to attack....sigh
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