I could live with those.

 

Agreed. I'd prefer the other BC DT and he's not dropping to the 2nd round. But the Robieskie and Smith picks can override that.

 

I could live with Cushing Smith and Brace, throw Pat White off it and replace him with a Safety and I'd love that draft.

 

25. Duke Robinson, G
44. Sean Smith, CB
56. Ron Brace, DT
87. Brian Robiskie, WR

Thats a pretty nice mock.

 

i like the one with Duke Robinson

 

If we get Enlish, sintim or cushing iam gonna be stoked even though i dont think we will have a legitimate shot at english at 25..when folks see this kid from the small school at the combine there going to "****.. in.. their pants" { reference: one of the funniest SNL'S skits ever}

Follow up with delmas and caldwell and BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE.

 

Chase Coffman is going to take a hit on his draft stock IMO, his foot will not be healed sufficiently to allow him to participate in the Combine, his one shot is at the Pro day workouts in Mizzo.

We need some more Defensive players, how did Derrick Williams sneak in there?:lol:

 

Lots of mocks have us taking Sean Smith at 44 wow. That would be a great value pick up imo for us, but Im not sure he makes it out of round 1 let alone to 44.

 

Yeah, that would be a steal. I think drafttek's overall mock is very interesting at the moment:

25. Sean Smith
44. Clay Matthews
56. Derrick Williams
87. Dannell Ellerbe
122. Pat White
153. Brandon Underwood
196. Khalif Mitchell
215. Robert Brewster
220. Andrew Hartline

Gotta say I would be happy with those first three picks. I wasn't sure what to think of the Pat White stuff, but I like the kid. If the coaches really think he has a use for this team (moreso than simply making John Beck expendable), then I'm all for it.

 

Can't argue with the last two picks, but I just don't get the Duke Robinson one (and I have seen that elsewhere as well). In particular, they have us passing on Maclin and Nicks to take Robinson. :no:

 

That is a fine fine draft, if we could land a ILB as well, we would be set at Lb and Db and we would have a Oline prospect as well.

 

Is that the guy that use to post here???

 

I'll say "maybe" on that Aqua, a small college Free Safety who can transition to the NFL and call coverages is a rare commodity and could be a part of a reason why he might still be around in mid to late rd 2.

 

walter football updated their mock, it was previously Duke Robinson

It now goes
1) Mack
2a) Sean Smith
2b) Brian Robiskie

That sounds reasonable.

 

I don't see a first round pick on the basis of Miami's $25 million starting Guard "stinks and is always hurt".

 

Draft Empire
1. Clay Matthews

Football expert
1. Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB
2a. William Moore, S
2b. Coye Francies, CB (San Jose St)

New NFL Draft
1. Clint Sintim, OLB
2a. Sean Smith, CB/S
2b. Jared Cook, TE (South Carolina)

here’s the latest updates

trends are basically OLB and secondary help

 

By my count...#25...

Clint Sintim - XX
Duke Robinson - XX
Alex Mack - XX
Vontae Davis - XX
Eben Britton - XX
Clay Matthews - XX

Larry English - X
Aaron Maybin - X
Brian Cushing - X
Alphonso Smith - X
Mike Mickens - X
Percy Harvin - X
Sean Smith - X
Darius Heyward-Bey - X

 

Switch Jamon Meredith with Jared Cook and I would be happy, especially if we come back with someone like Chip Vaughan in the 3rd and on OG like Green in the 4th.

 

either one works for me (though the first was my favorite). Each of those guys would arguably be the bpa at those spots, and I'm a firm believer in that sort of drafting strategy

I suspect that if a Maualuga, Laurinaitis or Maybin is sitting there at 25, then that's where we go

 

I think after Laurinaits measures 6'2", 245lbs at the combine and presses 30-35 times and runs a 4.6, people will be singing a different tune.

for the talent around him, you had AJ Hawk putting up great numbers with Bobby Carpenter, Dan Connor with Poslusky, Urlacher with Briggs. I think Laurinaitis is a solid 10 tackle a game machine, and throw in some of those game changing plays you alluded to (perhaps mostly in coverage), smart high character guy, that's a safe and worthy investment at 25 (or 15, or 5)

I think a good NFL comparison is Keith Brookings (instinctual and always around the ball, good but not amazing athletic ability, wraps up tackles)

I believe the OLB vs ILB debate is a legit debate with him. Put if you could pair him with a run thumper like Bart Scott, and let him cover the middle, that's a good pair

 

Perhaps, and I like James L, but he is not or has not done anything that Beckwith or McKellop cannot do...

 

I'm a fan of McKillop too, but I believe Beckwith's injury history might scare us off. McRath is a guy we should be interested in, but gets little play on this board

Ranking inside linebakers, specifically going on what I think Parcells likes (size, team leader, multiple good seasons, no nagging injuries) my list goes like this:
1) Maualgua
2) Laurinaitis
3) McRath - Southern Miss
4) Ellerbe- Georgia
5) McKillop- Pitt

 

I prefer the official MrClean mock draft.:up: I've no use for any mock draft that ignores the OL throughout the first 3 rounds. :no:


1. Alex Mack C Cal
2a. Patrick Chung S Oregon
2b. Ron Brace DT Boston College
3. Keenan Lewis CB Oregon St
4. Tyronne Green OG Auburn
5. Garrett Reynolds OT North Carolina
7a. Quinn Johnson FB LSU
7b. Will Davis DE/OLB Illinois
7c. Sammie Stroughter WR Oregon St

 

If I was planning how to handle the OL for '09, I'd say something like this:
Resign or Franchise Vernon Carey and resign Al Johnson if a reasonable deal for not much more than veteran minimum is reached.
Draft the players mentioned, presuming they are available. When I make a mock draft, I try to select players that have a reasonable chance of being available where I put them and use the projected rounds that nfldraftscout has them going, since I have to start somewhere and I think they are as good as any online site.
I would have Mack, Johnson, Satele, Thomas, Green and Smiley compete for the 3 starting interior positions, and keep 2 who don't start on the roster as reserves. I'm not comfortable with just counting on Smiley and Thomas to be 100% physically when camp rolls around. Lower leg injuries prevent lifting for an extended period of time, cause a loss of strength and perhaps they won't be able to regain everything they had by the time the bell rings. Thomas was somewhat lacking in lower body strength to begin with. Also, when was the last time that Smiley made it through a season without missing time or playing through an effectiveness reducing injury? If Smiley and Thomas need more recovery time, we could still start off with Satele, Mack and Green (this year's Thomas imo) or Johnson, until Smiley and Thomas are 100% again. Jake and Carey would of course be the tackles again and Reynolds would be a good reserve and could play the right side, allowing Carey to move to the left if Jake missed any time. We still have guys like Ndukwe, Alleman, Murphy and Garner and while that list isn't impressive, maybe one of them will take a quantum leap forward.

As for my 2nd round picks, Chung and Brace are both projected as solid 2nd rounders. IMO, Delmas and Johnson won't make it to #44, so rather than selecting a wishful thinking guy for that spot, I tried to be more realistic, in my mind anyway, by selecting Chung. He is a solid safe pick and while he played more like a strong safety, he has the ball skills and range imo to play free safety. He is also a reliable tackler and an excellent special teamer.

The two BC guys are the only true NTs to be highly rated and Raji is of course a top half of the first round pick, which leaves Brace who represents decent value late in round 2. If we don't go that route and take Brace, then it would be slightly more risky selecting one of the less well regarded NTs in the mid rounds.

As for your question of whom amongst English, Smith, Smith, Delmas and Mack would I take? I like Mack and I really don't expect English to be there when we pick. If English were there, then yes maybe I'd go for him, and look for Wood or Caldwell in the 2nd rather than Brace. I would certainly take Mack over either Smith or Delmas though. Building a solid consistent playoff team starts with the lines. The OL imo is behind the DL currently, so I'm going more to that side of the ball.