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This is a horrible way to handle things. Tua busting his butt and the team negotiating for a replacement as long as the dude doesn't have to answer for horrible behaviour. "But carry on Tua, Watson might not pan out."
I hope to God that Tua has a great career no matter what happens.
And is this is all invented lies by the media... someone should have to answer for this. I know it's unlikely anyone could be held for it, but this stuff really hurts people's lives, and they're doing it for clicks. -
Well, I feel a little guilty for posting this, because I know it'll cause a negative reaction for many of you, as it did for me. But this story is out there and doing the rounds, so at least here it can be summarised and set straight!
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This McClain guy again? Is he just going to report there is a trade every week until he's right?
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It looks like this was exactly what I said earlier- Miami wants to sign him AFTER the legal stuff is settled. Meanwhile, Watson doesn't want to settle because it's at least a partial admission of guilt. So it's the same stalemate we had 5 months ago.
Will Miami or Watson budge? I doubt it.
By the way, Sports Illustrated is reporting it's three 1st rounders plus additional picks. That's based on McCain's report from last week though. -
Ross has no balls. Always trying to make big moves while playing it safe.
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This is more embarrassing as a fan than the 1-6 record. Don Shula must be turning in his grave.
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Ross has done this before. Remember he courted Harbaugh with Sparano still prepping the team at the facility.
Fool me once, shame on, shame on you. Fool me twice, you can't fool me again.Striking likes this. -
This is the weirdest news report ever.. so … nothing?
lets get back to trading our highly expensive highly not worth it secondary.. that actually can get accomplished this weekhitman8 likes this. -
So, the dolphins want watson in a fantasy world where he didn’t have 22 lawsuits against him and 10 criminal complaints and the nfl and fbi investigations. Imagine letting your qb you drafted a year ago get completely dragged through the mud every week over a fantasy.
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I've been a Dolphins fan since 1972. In 49 years, I never imagined what could make me reconsider my fandom until I heard this report. You all know everything that's happened in that stretch. Heck, living in Ohio, I only knew one other Dolphins fan in my circle of acquaintances, but that's all good. I really really don't want this to be true.
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I will 100% just be an NFL fan for gambling aspects and renounce my Dolphins fandom if they trade for Watson and get rid of Tua.KeyFin, OwesOwn614 and Two Tacos like this.
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I'd offer Howard and Parker for the Titan's first rounder. Sure it will be a late first, but it's time to move on from both of those players. I'd prefer not to help Brady and the Bucs out by trading with them, but for a first rounder you have to do what you have to do.
Also, the Eagles can offer two top ten picks for Watson in 2022, maybe even the #1 overall if Miami continues to collapse. How Dolphin is that? Being outbid by your very own first rounder? -
shambolic handling of this whole issue. Typical of what the Dolphins have become under Ross' ownership
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Sports writing and sports reporting anymore have become no more reliable nor informative as the National Enquirer. Gossip, rumor, innuendo…how about reporting on actual facts? How about reporting on actual circumstances? Sure, you writers can offer opinion based on those facts and circumstances but to continuously fabricate a possible trade scenario, inject rumors and innuendo as facts to validate those scenarios and call it actual sports journalism?
And folks wonder how the term “fake news” developed. I Jay wish Ross or Grier would come out and simply say, “sure, in a perfect world if we had the opportunity to land such a talent, it would be foolish not to however, this is not a perfect world and to continue reporting on it is ludicrous. There is zero chance we ever try to trade for Watson…period”
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Been a fan for 32 years, the way they are handling this is terrible and I will strongly consider just saying "eff it, I'm done" If this goes down. Tua is getting completely screwed here and I just can't get behind this situation or the way its been conducted. Complete, total, unprofessional way to go about it. Coincidentally, the Raiders are probably my second favorite team and that's probably who I would start to follow. Can't believe we're at this point.
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Only in Miami
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To give an alternate viewpoint, these talks started before the season and before 22 sexual assault allegations. You also have to factor in that at that point, Tua did not show a lot his rookie year, did not know the playbook and was coming off that major college injury. At that point in time, trading for Watson made a heck of a lot of sense.
Today, making that trade makes zero sense at all...but I have a feeling we had already agreed to terms before this whole circus unfolded. I'm guessing that's why the Texans tried to mediate and settle this on their own, and I'm also guessing that's why we traded back and turned our 1st rounder into three picks. These executives expected the lawsuit stuff to get settled privately and go away. That's also why we gave away our own 1st rounder to Philly and settled for Brissett....we thought we'd have Watson to start the season.
If that's actually what happened, I don't think it's crazy or a mis-step by the franchise. That would also partially explain why Tua worked so incredibly hard all off-season and really sharpened up his game. This makes me even more of a Tua fan because he hasn't deserved any of this stuff, the kid has done nothing but work hard and grow as a NFL QB. -
The Eagles can bid 10 first round picks. Watson has to waive his no trade clause first. He chooses where he goes. Though I imagine he would not mind playing for Philadelphia. They got some nice receivers, bad offensive line thoughKeyFin likes this.
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This is my position too. If they trade for Watson, I’m not coming back until major changes are done.The_Dark_Knight and OwesOwn614 like this.
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There you go again with the excuse making for the dolphins disfunction. No key, don't rational it, it WAS a misstep. The situation and the team as a whole has been handled terribly from the start, and it is all due to an incompetent Grier and a clueless owner.
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That's not an excuse, my friend, because the trade talks did start before the sexual misconduct stuff. I'm not siding with the front office here at all....they should have walked away as soon as all the other stuff came out. They didn't and that's on them. And it's complete BS putting Tua through that while he's developing nicely.
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At least one party here is making stuff up.
There are more options than just the Dolphins. It's only the Dolphins.
They've made an arrangement. No they haven't.
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Oh look - even more contradictions:
Wasn't this whole thing a matter of them having agreed terms if the legal stuff checks out?
The whole lot of these guys should be ashamed of themselves for not getting to the bottom of things first. Just a whole lot of rumours being repeated. "Well it's not my fault, I'm just repeating what I was told." Rubbish. Grow up and take some responsibility.
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