I wouldnt say he "lucked out," and they can still press a civil damage suit. I thought this one sounded rather flimsy, but still, Ben needs to stop putting himself in these situations. Even though no charges were brought he will likely face a suspension and imo rightfully so. Just a 2-4 game one, but hopefully it gets the message across to him.

 

I've seen a couple of studies that found that 50% of sexual assault allegations end up being false. Their standard for "false" was only cases where the victim later admitted that she was not raped. It did not include cases like Ben's where the charges were dropped or cases with an acquittal unless the victim later said there was no rape.

In the Ben cases, I thought the one at Lake Tahoe sounded sketchy as she was happily emailing friends right afterwards. That sounds like a case of buyer's remorse. The one in Georgia sounds more legit but there is the question of how reliable can the only witness be when she was by all accounts very intoxicated.

 

soooo can we quit calling him "big"ben now?according to a doctor who examined her...it is just a stage name!and how is there "some"fluid" but not enough to test?i thought all you needed was a drop with the technology today.

 

He didn't rape the girl..... Just another girl targeting an athlete.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5090028

what I don't get. Is that he wasn't convicted, he wasnt even tried and let go on a technicality. he wasn't even indicted. But Goodell has yet to decide what punishment to dole out, if any.

Say what? Punishment? It would be a huge display of power if Goodell came with something on this

 

Wait, does he have to give Kobe's wife a $4 Million dollar diamond ring now?

 

Steelers have internally discussed trading Roethlisberger

Steelers have internally discussed trading Roethlisberger
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8178b2b1&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

 

lol

 

Don't laugh, if the DA's press conference made Art Rooney II sick this might make him throw up:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5094224

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

(deep breathe)

...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

This is a show of force, nothing more. No team trades their superstar QB, rape or no rape.

 

What do you mean by this? I sure hope you are not implying piling a underage girl with shots and then taking advantage of her when she says no is ok?

And I think there is a very good chance they will try to move him, it's just a matter what they get in return making it worthwhile.

 

I would not be so certain, Big Ben was over the top nasty on this one:

 

I think if someone called up, say the Rams and offered the #1 overall they'd do in a heartbeat but its tough to trade a guy like Ben especially when his stock is so low. He's more valuable to them than what they could get for him right now. Honestly though he's a bad night out away from getting a hefty suspension, he's really starting to look like a complete dirt bag. I would have a ton of respect for an owner that traded him though.

 

If I'm the Rams I'm offering the first overall right now or working out something to get a deal done. Can use the Bears trade of Cutler as a blueprint.

But it wont happen imo unless the Steelers brass is not happy with what Ben has been telling them in private. This incident isn't cool, but it wasn't prosecuted for a reason - sketchy - but you dont really ship out a top QB in his absolute prime. Unless they feel Ben will do this again, they wont trade him. He will get a 2-4 game suspension, and maybe have his contract worked a bit to provide for an incident like this again. But thats gonna be about it.

 

He was talking about Pittsburgh pretending to trade him, not Ben's conduct.

 

By show of force I meant from the Steelers front office people. There's no way they can trade Roethlisburger, but they must say something lest they be seen as too soft on criminal behavior.

 

Whether he raped her or not, you can't be banging chicks in bathrooms at clubs if you are an NFL QB.

 

What's the point of being QB then.

 

It's not the tawdriness, hell a bathroom at a night club damn near anything goes, it's the LEO "bodyguards" keeping the door shut, it's the same two not allowing her friends to check on her, it's the shots of premium liquor to a 20yr old, it's the whole situation.

 

What he did was stupid, and your situation is different. First of all, yes employers can fire you for any reason. But was there a Union? I highly doubt you could be rid of that easily. if there was, then exactly how close were you. No job bank at that place eh? :D

Second of all, the NFL doesn't play by everyone's rules. They have special rules attached to them. What he does is very stupid, but it hasn't risen to the level of any criminal behavior yet. He was never convicted not even indicted. For all we know they had sex and the girl changed her story. That is just as likely as Big Ben forcing himself upon her.

I mean, for godsakes how many games was Belichick suspsended for cheating the very integrity of the NFL?

 

I just want to say this was before I heard the latest details. I no longer stand by what I said.

 

where was he when i was clubbing.....

 

You won't shave your back so he would not be interested in you.

 

The Seahawks have two 1st rounds picks.

Big Ben crimes are sex-based and getting increasingly more forceful.

 

he's gonna pay some. he's not walking away unscathed, not in a long shot.

 

No, you were right the first time. There's nothing linking Roethlisberger's DNA to her. Until there is its just another person targeting a celebrity or athlete. :yes:

 

Agreed.

 

check this stuff out:


per PFT:

And toss in the security camera tape being recorded over, whether Rothleisberger actually raped that young woman or not, we will never know for certain, I will say he should purchase brand new cars for the staff at that club because they damn sure covered his *** more effectively than his 09 offensive line.

And in a way, Rothleisberger maybe slid out of a rape charge (last I checked a intoxicated person could not give consent to engage in sex) but with no resolution one way or another, this falls into the court of public opinion.

 

biggest mistake they will make, the guys a winning Qb

 

And rapist.

 

Steelers shopping Ben Rothlesberger

That would be stunning if it happened...sort of...

 

I'll go ahead and say it.

IMO Big Ben is extremely overrated to begin with.

 

I've always liked Big Ben, but ever since his motorcycle accident dude clearly hasn't been the same player or person. He needs a wake-up call.

 

Bill need to send that #9 pick over there ASAP.

 

Not sure how you got that conclusion. In 2006 (same year as the accident) he had his worst year, yes. But last year and in 2007 he was statistically great. He was pretty darn good in 2008 as well. His 2 best seasons have come since his accident.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=5536

 

Roethlisberger to Possibly Be Suspended

I know it's not new news, but it seems the league is going to suspend him 4 - 6 games.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-roethlisberger-suspension

 

My top guesses are Oakland and Buffalo. Cleveland would be third just b/c of the division thing, but I guess it depends on just how peeved Rooney is with Ben. I'm sure he's pretty peeved, but is it enough to send him to a division rival if they have the highest offer or only top 10 offer?

Although I'd have to think that at a minimum Buffalo will offer their first for Ben even with a possible 6 game suspension.

 

we just extended leftwich through to next year.

sweet jebus