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Man the amount of [cowardice] from the dolphins front office is hilarious. If you want watson man up and say it. Everyone already thinks you want watson. The qb for your team thinks you want watson. The pr nightmare isnt going anywhere. If you dont want watson then shut it down and stop the nonsense. Just hiding is ridiculous.
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No, the game would be to say "Tua is our QB and I have every faith and confidence in him." What he's doing is causing problems for Tua and the coaches without coming out and saying he's interested in Watson. -
In the NFL only the GB Packers are owned by fans, and they've done real well too. It's a great idea. We wouldn't be stuck with the likes of Ross, and crowd intelligence is often superior to that of experts. Oh, and we'd probably get both a good QB and a good RB! -
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Can't expect accountability from your players and coaches, if it doesn't even reflect in the owner.
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Also, over the entire SB era GB went through their fair share of changes at GM, HC and QB. They've had 11 HC's and 13 starting QB's that coached/started a minimum of 6 games in at least one season throughout the SB era. Yes, their SB's came when they had 3 very good QB's: Starr, Favre and Rodgers, but that just shows how important the QB is AND their ability to land a very good QB 3 times in the last 55 years, which is quite a bit better than most teams.
Hard to argue with that much turnover that ownership structure has no influence. Anyway, at minimum it's clear public ownership would prevent the kind of mess we're seeing with Miami and Ross.KeyFin likes this. -
I’m not arguing that ownership structure doesn’t impact things. Rather landing Favre and Rodgers can hide a lot of bad decisions. Conversely, Miami not having a franchise QB for 20+ years makes every bad decision that much more amplified. -
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As far as what is expected with 2 HoF QB over 30 years, 2 SBs is close to expected. With a passer rating of 1 standard deviation above the mean (which is where "elite" QBs on average tend to lie) you have a 6.3% probability of winning the SB in any given year. In other words, over 15 years with an elite QB your expectation is about 1 SB win. It's not much more than that. -
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Side note- I loved the movie Moneyball and the idea of using metrics over dollars to build a championship team. -
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So the very rule you criticize not only helped keep two German powerhouses from defecting, it is also seen as the antidote to the formation of an American-style Super League that you're against.
Oh, and on that note, there's something contradictory in your views here because on one hand you say you prefer the American-style model in Pro Sports, which is precisely what the Super League represents, but then on the other hand say you're against the SL. So something isn't adding up. Maybe it's 50+1? :smile:
btw.. I would actually love to see a Super League for competitive purposes, but these things don't happen in a vacuum. In Europe, the powerhouse clubs subsidize the entire football association, so the health of the entire game in that country depends to some degree on them. So I understand the loss that would be incurred.Last edited: Oct 27, 2021hitman8 likes this. -
I don't criticize 50+1 in general just how it's applied in the Bundesliga where teams like Leipzig, Wolfsburg, Hoffenheim are allowed to play even though they don't have 50+1 in place which costs other Traditional Teams their spot in the first division because they got way more money then 50+1 teams.
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