https://phinphanatic.com/2016/04/08/ryan-tannehill-like-what-he-sees-in-gases-offense/
Wow. Cool.
It is good for him to watch Manning because that's the "type" of quarterback he is and should aspire to be. Meaning; he's a pocket passer who needs time. I know, obviously, that he's no where near as good as Manning at this point, but he's that type of pocket passer. That should be his highest aspiration or whatever.
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Not trying to start a long drawn out argument but I haven't really chimed in on gase..
i love RT17 that's our QB and he desirves our support..
that at being said Peyton is light years ahead of rt17..
i also truly believe cutler cutler is a way better "passer" than rt17....
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Truth of the matter though, if Thill has come out and said he watched all the Bears offense and hadn't gotten around to watching the Broncos, many of the same people who are complaining now (not you though) would be upset that he didn't start with the better offense and he's just striving for mediocrity.RevRick, number21, TotoreMexico and 1 other person like this. -
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So, let me get this straight: people are now criticizing Tannehill for, in their mind, watching the "wrong tape?" And people wonder why I say Tannehill has never gotten a fair shake from many posters.
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Maybe it's RT watching the tape and seeing how Gase has (famously evidently) adjusted to the QB he is coaching and can take something away from his own strengths and weaknesses as to how Gase will work with him?
Maybe knowing that Gase will be coaching his offense to the team in the near future its not a priority for RT to study what he did with the Bears because he will soon learn that system anyways and it's more to see how Gase worked with Manning to get an idea of what to expect from Gase.
I think over analyzing every word that comes from these kids mouths is a bit much. I don't think its a bad thing to have RT watching tape of one of the greatest QBs to ever play during one of the greatest seasons of all time? Do you? Or would you rather have RT study Jay Cutler?
And I honestly don't think we are going to see the exact same offense in Miami as we did in Chicago. remember Gase molds the offense around the QB. As he did in Chicago.eltos_lightfoot, cuchulainn, number21 and 2 others like this. -
If you want to know what a Gase offense looks like, there is only one place to look, Chicago, regardless of whether he rewrites ever single offense based on the QB, which by the way, none of us knows for sure, because he only has 1 year to look at, which is last year in Chicago.
No one is overanalyzing anything, QB17 said he was trying to pick up on Gase's offense, but he's watching Manning's offense to do that, when he should be watching Chicago.
Btw, who do you think QB17 resembles more, Cutler or Manning? We will be running Chicago's offense, you can count on that.roy_miami likes this. -
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So because neither has had success so they are the same? I can find better ways to compare them than that. Big deal he said he was watching Denver tape. Maybe Gase told him not to bother with the Chicago tape. "Please Don't watch Cutler" could have been advices given. if anyone thinks the HC and QB actually follow the no contact rule it's just nieve at best. People actually think The Patirots are the only one bending rules? Lol. There is nothing wrong with RT studying the Broncos and Manning. The offense that we are going to see in Miami is going to differ from both. Gase has all but said it.
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His execution is more similar to Cutler but his style is more similar to Peyton.eltos_lightfoot and cuchulainn like this. -
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He and Brady are the fastest to throw because most of the time they've made their decision before the snap. So their first read might not be the primary, but based on recognition they've decided to switch the order.
As for audibling, I know nobody brought it up in this thread but in discussing Manning's histrionics at the line I found this article quoting Saturday and it's pretty good.
Guy played two of the best all time. Great vantage point. People think Manning just runs his own offense but he doesn't. He isn't allowed THAT much freedom. Saturday even talks about Rodgers only having one option at times, to flip a run from one side to the other. My point being, other QBs were given more freedom than Tanny sure, but it wasn't THAT much. Sometimes it wasn't at all. -
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Well, y'all smashed up another thread. Was it compare RT to other QBs?
Really... Peyton or Cutler??? You guys just can't resist it. Haha.
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Jeff Saturday has already shed light on the freedom Manning has. It wasn't carte Blanche like most people thought. He even says above if there was a check it was 2-3 checks. Sometimes 4 or 5.
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That freedom isn't a gift that you earn as a special reward. No, its a tool given to you to so can get over 82 rating.
The crux of your ridiculous argument is that good quarterbacks don't play great because of tangible things like a running game, the ability to audible, a not **** oline, decent pass catchers, etc.....nope, none of that means a goddamned thing. What a QB has to have is, you know........"it". Its the "it" that makes them great.
So fine, forget all this actual evidence. Forget all these actual tangible and demonstrable factors. You win, forget all of that stuff. Its only about who does and doesn't have "it".
Ok? We good?
Now, please list for me all the QBs that have "it" that have displayed "it" whilst, not being allowed to audible, an abandoned running game and a **** oline.
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Just sounds to me like tannehill is watching the tapes in chronological order. Denver first then Chicago. At least he isn't watching Seahawks tapes
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I think Ryan has the brain and ability to call and execute plays, and change them based on reads. I don't think he's had the permission to do it much yet. If Gase is serious about giving him the chance to do this, I'm excited to see what he can do.
I just remember that one game last year after Philbin refused to name Ryan the starter and kinda threw him under the bus... you could just tell Ryan was being rebellious in that game. He was audibling, and gun-slinging the whole game. And he kicked ***. I remember seeing him toss an incredible bomb for a TD, and the cameras went to Philbin who had a shocked look on his face... instead of jumping for joy! I think if Gase let's RT be a baller, we'll see more of that side of him this year. Assuming we get the line fixed, and maybe even if we don't... Either way, it does give us a reason for watching this year, even if we lost a lot of hope over the past many ever lovin' seasons.resnor and eltos_lightfoot like this. -
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Man, you cats will argue about anything. Ha. I love it. Tanne is psyched and ready to go!! He's the guy this year. Get behind it, deal with it, get into it and get funky bitc---! ......what else are you going to do, bit-h? Give it a few games at least. :hammertime:
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