Kinda surpirsed by Mike here, he is a smart guy, he gets it, and he knows football. I think if you watched Ted Ginn here in Miami at all, you ought to know there was every opportunity for Ted to be a receiver, THE receiver, and not just a special teams player. Do you think he is trying to take some pressure off him?? I dont get the dig attempt, because it isnt true.
Or am I just reading into it too much??
Ted Ginn, WR, 49ers
A '07 first-round pick of the Dolphins, Ginn was a bust in Miami as a receiver/returner. Once the Dolphins acquired Brandon Marshall, they were willing to trade Ginn for a fifth-round draft pick. Niners coach Mike Singletary says Ginn can add something to the team's receiving corps.
"He can help our offense significantly by just continuing to perfect his skills and really work at the craft of being a wideout and not just a special teams guy," Singletary said.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38418147/ns/sports-nfl/
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Sounds like just generic coach-speak from Singletary.
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Ted Ginn can be a WR, he received far to much blame here. There he doesn’t have to live up to being a top ten pick. If he contributes as a 3rd wideout he is a success there. Here, not so much because of the expectations that go with his draft position. If he plays like he did the last 1/3rd of last season he will help them a lot.
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It's messed up that they now have both Willis and Ginn
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I think you're reading too much into it. IMO Singletary looks at Ginn and still sees a raw WR. Ginn was incredibly raw when he was drafted so that really isn't all that surprising. I also don't see Ginn as having natural hands. You still see him reach for the ball with his hands in the wrong position and unevenly. Even though by all accounts he is a hard worker, he's a guy who will take at least five years to become polished as a WR. Now he'll have value and can contribute as a WR now, but he won't reach his Joey Galloway type potential until at least year 5.
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or something like that.......Fin-Omenal likes this. -
Wait till he starts running out of bounds to avoid contact
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I would venture that the 49ers FO knows a little more than the average pissed off jaded Dolphins FAN.....
Ginns issues were/are mental not physical....If he gets his head on straight he will be a very servicable WR and a pro bowl return man.Colorado Dolfan and adamprez2003 like this. -
There are 2 things that prevent Ginn from being a receiver. He avoids contact and he can't catch balls consistently. I think the "not being able to catch" problem stems from being afraid of contact. I think if he could ever overcome the fear of being hit, that he could then step up his game. I almost forgot his route running.........make that 3 things that prevent him from being a good receiver.
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Hmmm here is some irony....
Remember the movie "life"
Their was a talented baseball player who had mental issues they nicknamed him Cant-Get-Right...
Sound familiar?
Well look at this..
Cant get right:
Ted Ginn:
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The fear of contact stuff is overblown...Marvin Harrison got down every chance he got, Wes Welker falls to the ground alot also...its not "manly" to take unnecesaary hits to the head....
His drops were only an issue in 09 so yea it is a mental thing, and if he overcomes it he will be a borderline 1,000 yd WRColorado Dolfan, gafinfan and Two Tacos like this. -
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Well once a car backs over your dome when your three years old, all bets are off!finyank13 and MikeHoncho like this. -
Ginn and 1,000 yards in the same sentence. :lol: -
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Fear of being hit? Hmm, I don't think so.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35fxXOXBrA8&feature=related"]YouTube- Ted Ginn Jr. highlights vs bills[/ame]Two Tacos likes this. -
It's like Ted Ginn's ghost haunts the place, let it go.
Notice, even Ginn's ghost has his hands in typical Ted Ginn going over the middle position...:D -
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i view ginn's performance this year in san fran as indicative of whether we got rid of him to soon or not. this wouldve been his last year to prove himself for me. if he gets 800 yds receiving this year or more then i say we blew it. if he gets less than i say we made a good move.
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To me if we let that production go for a 5th rd pick Irish got hosed.Colorado Dolfan, adamprez2003, gafinfan and 2 others like this. -
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Still don't understand how it was a good move. We got rid of a solid kick returner and failed to replace him. Simple as that.
The draft pick was spent. The salary was spent. He was on the team - use him for what he IS good at and see if he develops into anything else.
A 5th round pick isn't worth the two Jets games from last year. Just don't force the ball to him. Throw it to him deep 2-3 times a game and leave him on the sidelines the rest.
(Before people argue that he wasn't a solid kick returner - I realize he is boom or bust, but I view KR as the one position where boom or bust is a good thing. One 45 yard return is worth a lot more than 4-5 extra yards on the other returns.)2k5, Fin-Omenal and Stitches like this. -
Good KR's don't have as many inside your own 20 kick returns as Ginn........ which is a really bad thing. We'll do fine with one of the young guys we currently have...
And please.....you guys need to stop giving him BOTH Jets games. He scored once.NaboCane likes this. -
As for kickoff returns, I think his rate of returns under 20 yds is a misconception. Over 65% of his KR were for 20 yards or more. Cribbs was 69%, Harvin was 64% (those are the guys with multiple TD returns.) The guys with a higher percentage of returns more than 20 yards almost all mirror Ginn in terms of avg per return (Amendola, Charles, Sproles).
And no matter WHO we throw back there, I hope we put more of an emphasis on blocking. Whether it was Cobbs or Ginn, they both always had to make their first move well before most return units (resulting in a lot of returns inside 20). Seems like an area we have struggled at for a few years now.2k5, Two Tacos and Fin-Omenal like this. -
Funny this scared horrible route running little man URINED all over the leagues best CB (and his 2 friends) on a 58 yd TD.
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