Sunday ticket is headed to YouTube TV

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DADan Sforum_veteranOP
Dec 22, 2022, 10:36 AM

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35304457/nfl-sunday-ticket-headed-youtube-2023-season

At first glance it doesn't appear that games or single teams will be available ala carte, which I think many people were hoping for.

StrikingStrikingforum_veteran
Dec 22, 2022, 10:52 AM

Assuming the costs are reasonable, I would consider moving from Sling to YouTube.

KeyFinKeyFinforum_veteran
Dec 22, 2022, 11:54 AM

That means I'm ditching Direct TV- hoping YouTube doesn't charge a fortune.

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FinatikFinatikmoderator
Dec 22, 2022, 12:54 PM

Kinda sucks. I like the fact that I can get Directv anywhere I'm at and watch games. Not sure if Utube will work the same way.

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FIFishheadforum_veteran
Dec 22, 2022, 12:57 PM

"Dan S wrote:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35304457/nfl-sunday-ticket-headed-youtube-2023-season

At first glance it doesn't appear that games or single teams will be available ala carte, which I think many people were hoping for.

A foolish move by whomever makes those decisions, imo. I think they would get a lot of partial subscriptions - for example, paying $100 a year to watch one team vs $400 or more to watch all games, most of which the average fan doesn’t care about.

DADan Sforum_veteran
Dec 22, 2022, 01:23 PM

"Striking wrote:

Assuming the costs are reasonable, I would consider moving from Sling to YouTube.

I believe YouTube TV is about $70 a month. But on top of that you'd still have to pay for the NFL package which will probably be $300-$400 a year. I'm eager to see the full details when they become available.

StrikingStrikingforum_veteran
Dec 22, 2022, 03:03 PM

Yeah YouTube offers more sports coverage which is nice during the NCAA football season. But at 20 more a month over Sling I'm not sure it's worth the expense.

BerezoBerezoforum_veteran
Dec 22, 2022, 03:31 PM

so they are still doing the same garbage one size fits all crap and still blacking out local games im assuming. What a miss. Was really hoping the NFL to push the industry and allow you to pay for what teams you want to see. Huge miss especially considering how much better illegal streaming options have become over the years.

brandon27brandon27subscriber
Dec 22, 2022, 03:33 PM

Sigh... I wonder what that means for us here north of the border. There was one year with all this sunday ticket nonsense that the only option for me was DAZN. What a depressing year that was.

Not having a single team option is foolish too in this day and age.

I hate the move to streaming services in general though. But you know, the greedy NFL is going to go where the $$$ signs are the highest.


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firedanfiredanforum_veteran
Dec 22, 2022, 04:13 PM

NFL making it more expensive to be a fan.

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Dec 22, 2022, 04:33 PM

I dropped DirecTV five years ago, and got broadband for the first time since 2005 at the same point, so I'm excited that we're finally getting the chance to watch football via streaming. It was originally supposed to be an option in the 2020 season in addition to DirecTV, but they kept kicking the can down the road.

I wonder if they'll trickle out the info about exactly what the packages will be and the cost over time, or we'll get a big information dump all at once. Also whether there will be some sort of early bird, get it now deal for early adopters.

The_Dark_KnightThe_Dark_Knightforum_veteran
Dec 22, 2022, 08:57 PM

Just curious how this will affect all of the sports bars? They’re all in on directv and their NFL Sunday Ticket.

Not sure how they’re going to get all of those televisions streaming. Need some good bandwidth to be able to stream, let alone stream 20 televisions.

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Dol-Fan DupreeDol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran
Dec 22, 2022, 09:36 PM

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

Just curious how this will affect all of the sports bars? They’re all in on directv and their NFL Sunday Ticket.

Not sure how they’re going to get all of those televisions streaming. Need some good bandwidth to be able to stream, let alone stream 20 televisions.

My guess is Direct TV will make a deal to show games in bars.

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Dol-Fan DupreeDol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran
Dec 22, 2022, 09:44 PM

I hope they have a stand alone app. If I can't watch more than one game at once, I am not getting it.

Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain

I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty

The_Dark_KnightThe_Dark_Knightforum_veteran
Dec 22, 2022, 10:28 PM

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

My guess is Direct TV will make a deal to show games in bars.

Not sure how that’ll work. DirecTV has the current license to broadcast NFL games on Sunday Ticket. That belongs to the NFL. If the NFL licenses YouTube TV, I THINK that will negate DirecTVs license.

Just not sure

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Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Dec 22, 2022, 10:36 PM

"KeyFin wrote:

That means I'm ditching Direct TV- hoping YouTube doesn't charge a fortune.

I hope they charge a service for sunday ticket only.. i dont want youtubetv to be a pre-requisite to get to sunday ticket

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Dec 22, 2022, 10:42 PM

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

Just curious how this will affect all of the sports bars? They’re all in on directv and their NFL Sunday Ticket.

Not sure how they’re going to get all of those televisions streaming. Need some good bandwidth to be able to stream, let alone stream 20 televisions.

Well directtv is no longer going to have sunday ticket

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

Not sure how that’ll work. DirecTV has the current license to broadcast NFL games on Sunday Ticket. That belongs to the NFL. If the NFL licenses YouTube TV, I THINK that will negate DirecTVs license.

Just not sure

It is negated, directtv loses their license. When 14 billion has been handed out to the NFL like this, google isnt giving out that money to share it.

What would have been good for bars is if ESPN won the bidding war for the license.. then it wouldnt be difficult to login to ESPN+.. but google outbid everyone.

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Dec 22, 2022, 10:46 PM

With all this new money, from amazon and now google.. some of the contracts we got now are going to be looked at as bargains.. even tyreek’s.. players share the revenue, salary cap is definitely getting adjusted.

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Dec 22, 2022, 11:56 PM

The media has been saying that the NFL will work out some special deal for sports bars, but no one has an idea of what that is. Obviously, they wouldn't go into this knowing that they're killing an entire industry that helps support them across the country. But as others have said, broadband can't be the solution, as there are too many technical hurdles and many bars are in areas where its not even an option. So my guess is that the League and Google agreed to let DirecTV or someone else like Dish be the bar exclusive provider.

I'm thankful that my time needing to go to one is now over after Week 18.

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Dec 23, 2022, 12:03 AM

"Vertical Limit wrote:

With all this new money, from amazon and now google.. some of the contracts we got now are going to be looked at as bargains.. even tyreek’s.. players share the revenue, salary cap is definitely getting adjusted.

The cap was 182m in 2021, and then rose to 206m this season. The expectation has been that next year's salary cap will be around 225m, and then raise to 235-240m in 2024. So that's already pretty much baked into these contracts.

Hills cap number jumps from 6.8m this season to 31.4 next year, then 25m, 28, and 50m after that.

Armstead's number jumps from 4.6m this season to 21m next year, then 16.4, 16.7 and 16.7 after that.

So even with the jump, we're going to be tight against the cap, and Grier is going to need to work some extensions and other adjustments just to fill out the roster.

Dol-Fan DupreeDol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran
Dec 23, 2022, 12:17 AM

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

Not sure how that’ll work. DirecTV has the current license to broadcast NFL games on Sunday Ticket. That belongs to the NFL. If the NFL licenses YouTube TV, I THINK that will negate DirecTVs license.

Just not sure

They have been saying that Direct TV will work with Google to have a bar license.

Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain

I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty

Dol-Fan DupreeDol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran
Dec 23, 2022, 12:17 AM

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

The cap was 182m in 2021, and then rose to 206m this season. The expectation has been that next year's salary cap will be around 225m, and then raise to 235-240m in 2024. So that's already pretty much baked into these contracts.

Hills cap number jumps from 6.8m this season to 31.4 next year, then 25m, 28, and 50m after that.

Armstead's number jumps from 4.6m this season to 21m next year, then 16.4, 16.7 and 16.7 after that.

So even with the jump, we're going to be tight against the cap, and Grier is going to need to work some extensions and other adjustments just to fill out the roster.

I will bet dollars to donuts that Hill's cap number will be at least half next season. It wouldn't surprise me that Armstead's will be lowered as well.

Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain

I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty

Tuanon4LifeTuanon4Lifeforum_veteran
Dec 23, 2022, 08:28 AM

"Vertical Limit wrote:

I hope they charge a service for sunday ticket only.. i dont want youtubetv to be a pre-requisite to get to sunday ticket

If I'm reading this correctly people will have the option to just sign up using YouTube primetime instead of having to get YouTube TV. If I were to bet I'd say they'll offer a lower price for YouTube subscribers and a higher price if you just go with primetime. They did something similar in the past with the PlayStation network.

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Dec 23, 2022, 12:12 PM

"Tuanon4Life wrote:

If I'm reading this correctly people will have the option to just sign up using YouTube primetime instead of having to get YouTube TV. If I were to bet I'd say they'll offer a lower price for YouTube subscribers and a higher price if you just go with primetime. They did something similar in the past with the PlayStation network.

Good, because im never going away from xfinity for a streaming cable package.. there are delays.. hell, just watching TNF on amazon prime you know you are delayed about 5 minutes from actual game time.

i went to the UFC Orlando event a few weeks ago, and my brother watching from home on espn+ on top high speed internet was delayed 5 minutes.

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