Does Austin's 4.25 put him in talks for the pick at 12? I know people really like him, but he's def. a lightweight and what roll would he play in Miami's O? People like Patterson at 12, is it Patterson's size that sets him apart from Austin's blazing speed and quicks?
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Nope.
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I see there's already discussion in the other thread.
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Future (better?) Percy Harvin. Can't go wrong with him or Patterson at 12.
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He can play the slot while Wallace or Jennings plays outside.
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I cant seem to find it on my timeline, and I am not sure of the rumors accuracy, but it is funny that you mention Bess as if he could be threatened. -
Who knows, back in 2009 when we were scouting Pat White, perhaps Ireland took notice of a freshman by the name of Tavon Austin (in the 2 plays below), and it subsequently blossomed into a serious man-crush over the following 4 years.
[video=youtube;S7ot0RG24jI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7ot0RG24jI[/video]
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I really, really have an issue taking a guy like Austin #12 overall. That just stinks of luxury pick.
He won't be there for our 2nd round pick so you just move on. You go grab a guy like Patterson @ #12, a guy who has demonstrated in a short period of time he can make giant strides in WR ability in very little time. -
He gets in the discussion if Miami nails free agency and is committed to giving Ryan Tannehill enough weapons to win with.
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We're looking for more speed, explosiveness, chunk yardage, and improved scoring production, so I'm not sure why Austin doesn't fit that bill. -
I will just say this. Tavon Austin averaged 10.5 yards per ATTEMPT when he was actually thrown the ball on wide receiver routes.
That's after taking out 28 catches for 162 yards on sweep screens. These plays are essentially jet sweeps but instead of a hand-off, the QB lightly tosses the football about 2 or 3 feet distance into Austin's hand. It's technically a "pass". But it really isn't.
You exclude those, you're talking 81 of 106 for 1114 yards...a 13.8 yards per catch, 10.5 yards per ATTEMPT average.
That's as good as Cordarrelle Patterson, essentially.
Incidentally Stedman Bailey was 115 of 146 for 1629 yards...which is 14.2 yards per catch and 11.2 yards per ATTEMPT. And people wonder why he's my #2 wide receiver.ToddPhin likes this. -
If you don't exclude the sweep screens for Austin then his average drops down to 9.5 yards per attempt.
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This is all like judging cloud formations but I think Markus Wheaton looked fantastic overall. He didn't catch every ball during the drills but I didn't need him to because I feel like I already know that he'll drop a ball every now and then. What I liked was that he ran full out (unlike so many) and he judged the ball in the air well. And in the testing portions he absolutely did what he needed to do to show that he's got DeSean Jackson type speed. A 4.34 in the 40 yard dash, fantastic. Only Tavon Austin, Marquise Goodwin and (somehow) Kenny Stills did better.
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I wouldn't take Austin with the corps we have right now.
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I would take Tavon Austin but the big question is just where and over whom. I've almost held Tavon in a different category from the regular wide receivers because I haven't wanted to rank him amongst them.
I definitely like Cordarrelle Patterson more. I think I still like Stedman Bailey more. I think I still like Markus Wheaton more. After that...I don't know. Maybe that's ultimately where I'd have to put him. -
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As for the comparison with T.Y. Hilton, I think if Hilton played the level of competition that Austin played in college then he'd have probably gone higher. That was partly just a signaling problem.
And as for the comparison with Joe Adams, I think Austin has been a much more electric player and is much faster. Also, Adams had a big fumbling issue in college which has followed him to the pros.
But it's tough to figure where you'd take Tavon. I think the best comparison is probably Percy Harvin. I don't think the Dexter McCluster comparison holds because McCluster was a tailback. Austin wasn't a tailback, he was just unleashed at tailback against Oklahoma as an effort to try and fix the offense because it went through a really bad stretch where even throwing to the likes of Stedman Bailey and Tavon Austin, Geno Smith couldn't carry the offense by himself. They needed more of a run game.ToddPhin likes this. -
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Looks like Tavon's time has been adjusted to 4.34 with Marquise at 4.27.
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I'm thrilled all the WRs ran faster than Stdeman's 4.52 because a lot of teams will make the massive mistake of overlooking one of the best WRs in this draft: Stedman Bailey.
The guy I can't decide how much I love is Terrance Williams.. boom or bust? I mean, he could come in and be an unbelievable deep threat, or become 'another guy'. His speed is not the best, but his stats for deep balls are unbelievable and I liked what I saw when I watched his games.
He makes contested catches, wins hand fights (benched more than most of the WRs at the combine too, so he's strong).eltos_lightfoot likes this. -