Reedy also reported 11 teams were in attendance: Chiefs, Lions, Browns, Saints, Bengals, Vikings, Colts, Broncos, Patriots, Falcons, Niners

The Dolphins were not one of them.

 

Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport 3h

Florida St DE Tank Carradine, 135 days post-ACL surgery after 11 sack yr, had good private workout for teams: 4.75-4.85 in 40 at 273 lbs

I don't really care for his, or Werner's games.

 

Damn that's impressive.

 

I think if it's true that Ireland doesn't like Rhodes or Johnson that Carradine might be a trade down option for us.

 

Honestly, (and this will sound Deej "bubble like) it is the way he moves.

How can I put this, guys I consider elite types or could be elite, have a certain body tilt when they are getting after the passer, it's like their weight/momentum is moving forward but they retain excellent balance.

Tank and Werner remind me of Matt Roth, without that sort of psychotic intensity.

FWIW, this is why imo, Odie will never be a great passrusher, don't care how much weight he losses.

 

I think there is more than one way to skin a cat. Watt doesn't have that bend, neither did Reggie White or closer to home, Trace Armstrong. Sometimes it's players ability to get the other off balance not just blow by them with bend.

 

What also ran a 4.6 at 300 pds, when he went up against guys of that era he had a huge size/speed advantage, and Watt actually does, Armstrong made up for it with great snap anticipation and hand placement.

And I'm not saying bend the arc, DT's have it as well, it looks like their upper body is tilted forward, at full speed, and the blocker just sort of falls off of them. It's like the OL is more or less bent, but straight up and down (to keep their balance) and the upper torso of the passrusher just bursts them off of them.

 

why would we need to be there to see a guy run a 40 yard dash? has nothing to do with his ability to play football or for that matter when he's going to be ready to play football on that knee.

 

I understand, one of the best is James Harrison at that, he does not run the arc, at least not like Wake, but always places them off balance. I feel like I see that in Caradine's game. He seems to get whoever is blocking him just off balance enough, run or pass plays to get past the blocker. Ill have to watch more of him. I'd love for him to drop but I just can't see it. If we traded back I'd take him for sure. I'm still very tempted to at 12. We need more pass rushers on this team.

 

Despite the idea that Ireland is suddenly becoming this revolutionary GM, I think he continues to show considerable caution with injured players. They just don't generally appear on his board early on.
As annoying as we may find it, it might simply mean that Jarvis Jones, Tank Carradine, and even Dee Milliner are just not in the plans.

 

I agree with your analysis on Carradine..I haven't seen anything special or explosive there in terms of compact precise movement..

Wouldn't take him at 12, wouldn't move back into the late first either.

 

Someone said his official time was 4.9- Can anyone confirm this?

What I like about Tank is he keeps his head up and aware of what is happening. He is good with his hands and knows how to play leverage. He isn't heavy footed but he isn't explosive. He wont beat guys off the snap on speed alone like Jordan but he is going to be a solid DE. Him and Wake would terrorize on the line.

 

Not sure on that. But I did hear that his 10-yd split was 1.63, which is really freaking good for a guy that size coming off an ACL only 4-5 months ago.

 

I dont believe so…I mean what are they going to learn by watching him run in a straight line?

 

That is a really good split

Dion Jordan 1.61

Ziggy Ansah 1.62

Bjoern Werner 1.67

Keke Mingo 1.57

Datone Jones 1.61

 

IE, he sounds like Jared Odrick.

 

If Odrick was faster/quicker then yes you could possibly draw that comparison but Tank will be much more involved in the pass rush. Odrick just isn't quick enough to play end in the NFL. I'd like him more inside but was't Vernon more efficient inside than Odrick during the year.

Maybe we could trade Odrick to a team that needs a 3-4 end?

 

I think you want him as a nickel DT more than the 4th round pick you'd be offered for him.

Personally I'd be happy to trade Odrick straight up for Glenn Dorsey. Two players who have been played out of position and not been put in a position to succeed by their teams.

 

Our work has already been done there.

 

A lot of people in this thread have either not watched Carradine much or have no idea what they're looking at.

Don't mean that in a detrimental way but some of the opinions are mind blowing.

 

Agreed, this guy obviously is a Richard Seymour clone

 

More like William Perry.

 

Naw, different eras...more like a bj raji

 

I see a little RG3 in him actually...

 

No way I would make that leap.

 

I think if I had to, I would take Datone Jones all things including..(injury)