Numbers can be skewed in do many ways, I don't get caught up in some of those stats....but more importantly he has grown significantly when you factor in the eye test.

Year 4 we become elite offensively

 

What I'd like to see out of Tannehill next year is a better deep ball and more intuition on the field, more savvy. he's getting there as a game manager, but the next step for him is being the clutch QB, the guy who can pull off the comebacks and win the close games. The Vikings game was a nice step in that direction.

 

I think we forget how little experience RT had coming into the NFL I believe he had 19 games experience, that's a year and a half as a qb, I couldn't believe he did as well as he did the first season.

 

Quietly Wallace has tied his career high in Td's

 

So has Hartline. :shifty:

JK... Hartline had a career high of 4 last season. He has 2 this season, as does Clay and Sims. Wallace and Landry have combined for 15 TDs (10,5).

 

:up:

 

Tannehill's main area of improvement has happened in the 11-20 yard passing range, where Mike Wallace has taken over Brian Hartline's role, and Charles Clay has expanded his game.

 

Question in three years as the starting QB how many come from behind victories has Tannehill have in the 4th quarter?
How many has rookie QB Teddy Bridgewater have for the Vikings though he has not started every game this season?

 

Tannehill, in 3 seasons: 7 fourth quarter comebacks, 5 game-winning drives.

Bridgewater: 3 fourth quarter comebacks and 3 game-winning drives. The 4QCs were against Atlanta, Tampa, and Washington. The GWD's were against Atl, Tampa, and the jets. Bridgewater has 13 TDs and 13 turnovers.

 

To me, our Wr corps is finally reaching a "competent" level, every on it has proven they can produce in the league.

Tannehill seems to me to be getting the ball out of his hand faster.

Would love to see it capped off with a 9-7 winning record, ppl do not realize how long it has been since we have finished the yr over .500 let alone the playoffs.

Think 2winning records since the Wanny era

 

Yeah, we still need more production from Hartline's position and a bigger target for downfield and RZ situations. Sims is developing slower than we'd like, but he came up huge for us against the jets in the first game this season. Plus each receiver outside of Landry has dropped/lost at least 1 TD this season. Hartline 1, Williams 1, Sims 2, Clay 2, Wallace 2...

You're correct on the winning seasons:
2008: 11-5 - Sparano
2005: 9-7 - Saban

 

White Lightning *****es.

 

And what about the 3 in his rookie season where Carp missed GW FG? Or Caleb Sturgis doing the same? Not really interested in stats w/o context.

 

The context would come from determining whether it was in fact Bridgewater's play that put the team behind in the first place. Sometimes relievers in Major League Baseball get the win, when they really should've gotten only the save.

 

There is an issue here with Tannehills numbers, these come from behind stats shows he lacks leadership in the crunch time, oh and please stop blaming the kicker, the blocking, the play call, the wind, the sun, the popcorn vendor. Its time for Miami to move in a different direction with the QB position the Tannehill experiment was a failure.

 

Areyouforreal?

 

Lol. Stick to BBQ pits.

 

While we all are entitled to our own opinions, I found this one to be odd. How people can see a body of work over three years and form a completely different assessment...DRASTICALLY different. While one sees improvement, better production and overall better numbers we have had in a long time....another sees HOT GARBAGE and a huge failure....while showing a lack of leadership. I am sure if we move in a different direction at QB, there would be quite a few teams to pounce on our QB experiment failure...and thats a fact that can't be disputed.

 

I almost spit coffee on my phone when I read bbq's post.

He can't be serious, can he?

 

Tannehill ain't exactly put in a good position to succeed in late drives, either. This coaching staff loves turtling until they're basically forced into a singular make or break drive at the end of the game. You aren't really putting your QB in a good position when you play scared for most of the quarter then ask him to be the heroic gunslinger as opposed to playing the full fourth.

 

Not sure if you're serious. lol...

Disagree. You're disregarding the entire team aspect - and Tannehill's growth. We had a 2 score lead against Minny, when Landry fumbled the ST return and set up the Vikes for a scoring opp. The defense then gave up 15 points in less than a minute following that. Whose fault was that? Does ST and the defense get a pass on those blunders? Tannehill then took the team down the field and scored. Following that, the ST pinned them deep (Dion Jordan) and the defense got the safety for our win (Fede). If Tannehill hadn't led that scoring drive late in the game, we lose. That counts as a clutch drive. Earlier this season against the jets, Tannehill made 2 huge passes to Dion Sims and a couple clutch runs, that were the difference in that game and brought us from behind for that win as well.

If you think Bridgewater's numbers are something special, you're reading too much into them. They were against poorly performing teams this season that they shouldn't have been trailing to begin with and he didn't throw a TD at all against Atlanta. All came against 4 teams that have combined for a combined record of 15-45 this season, including the 2 win Bucs and the 3 win jets. Tannehill's came against the Seahawks, Atlanta, Cinci, Pit, Pats, and this season the jets and Minny. While we should beat teams with losing records, there are a few playoff teams in there we've beaten and have had to overcome things like Landry's fumble, OL penalties and poor play, or our kickers missing FGs. You can't blame Tannehill for not performing better while giving the rest of the team a pass on under performing. This season, our WRs are credited with 26 drops, which is tied for fifth place in the league in drops and includes dropped TDs.

As for moving in a different direction, that is silly. There are no quality FA QBs better than him and to be able to get a top ranked rookie QB to gamble on would require a trade of draft picks, further setting us back. While I expect us to bring in some new arms and younger guys to replace Moore, you're still looking at Tannehill as the starter for the next 2 season's at minimum.

 

The team is very unlikely to find a game manager-level QB with potential upside anywhere else. It's more likely that they regress at QB if they look elsewhere, and lose even the game manager level of play Tannehill displays reliably at minimum at this point. Tannehill doesn't have a single game this year with a QB rating below 70. With that sort of consistency as a minimum level of play, he makes it possible for the team to win each and every game. That's a fairly big accomplishment at the QB position in the NFL. There are a good number of teams that don't have it.

 

For comparison sake, here are the active players who hit 90+ QBR in their first three years in the league.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=HzpoW

 

I want to see him take advantage of defense being offsides or confused. Ive yet to see a veteran type play in those situations (surely missed one or two.....i hope at least)

 

Puts things in perspective.

 

That dropped deep bomb to D. Williams comes to mind....

 

Man, Carson Palmer was going to be an all time great.

 

he needs to use his legs more and create on the run. he is very accurate when throwing on the run.

 

This is an idiotic waste of time, hey pitlover name one 26 year old qb you think would do a better job.

 

Does anybody know where there is video of this? I was at a violin recital. Sigh.

 

I believe you can see it on NFL.com's recap video of the game.

 

Thanks, I'm looking right now.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/inside-th...nside-the-NFL-Dolphins-vs-Patriots-highlights

 

The thing is, if the D makes a few more plays vs Green Bay, Detroit, and maybe Denver, Tannehill is being hailed as the league's next great QB and an MVP candidate. Tell me thats not true.

 

I don't know about that but Philbin would probably be up for coach of the year, and Hickey would be up for GM of the year.

 

Oh, it's definitely true.

 

My point was that I already knew that without the completion percentage/2013vs2014 stuff. The guy I have watched play QB the past 3 months IS a guy I believe in. He is ascending, he will be our franchise QB.