Ted Wells: “More probable than not” Patriots manipulated balls

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brandon27brandon27subscriberOP
May 6, 2015, 01:28 PM

Not exactly Phins related, but a big, big story... Mods feel free to move to Other NFL if you like, figured I'd put it here first so everyone see's and can chime in.

Sounds kind of like the Pats have been found guilty...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/06/ted-wells-more-probable-than-not-patriots-manipulated-balls/?cid=Yahoo

“For the reasons described in this Report, and after a comprehensive investigation, we have concluded that, in connection with the AFC Championship Game, it is more probable than not that New England Patriots personnel participated in violations of the Playing Rules and were involved in a deliberate effort to circumvent the rules,” Wells concluded. “In particular, we have concluded that it is more probable than not that Jim McNally and John Jastremski participated in a deliberate effort to release air from Patriots game balls after the balls were examined by the referee.

“Based on the evidence, it also is our view that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls.”


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SumlitSumlitNew Member
May 6, 2015, 01:32 PM

ooooo Brady gon get suspended!!

DorfdadDorfdadforum_veteran
May 6, 2015, 01:37 PM

Honestly he should... He won't but he should be suspended if that is their conclusion. However I feel the NFL will just sweep it under the rug.. Wish this was like the College football where when found guilty you are not allowed the program is penalized by not being able to play in the postseason for X years as punishment...

Mcduffie81Mcduffie81subscriber
May 6, 2015, 01:39 PM

Hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaa
Can't wait to read all of this when I have time.

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unluckylucianounluckylucianoNew Member
May 6, 2015, 01:43 PM

Nothings going to happen. They wait till after the draft to release this. Yeah.

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firedanfiredanforum_veteran
May 6, 2015, 01:43 PM

Shocking.Who would have thunk it?

BpkBpkluxury_box
May 6, 2015, 01:45 PM

Surprised they even said this though! Happy to see SOME accountability at least!!!

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CrunchTimeCrunchTimeretired_admin
May 6, 2015, 01:55 PM

They will probably lose one of their hundreds of compensatory picks they always seem to have.:pointlol:

finyank13finyank13New Member
May 6, 2015, 01:57 PM

It starts with their 1st and 2nd next year and a 5M dollar fine, remember this is the SECOND TIME they got caught.....

And honestly don't tell me that BB didn't know....I have said it all along this has been their practice for many games now, if fact it is so common place that they don't even discuss it anymore, it is just known, "do it"....

If your wife for 15 years made you chicken parm without mozzarella cheese but instead American (nobody does that hahahah) you think in year 16 or 17 she is going to all a sudden ask you if you want mozzarella on your chicken parm? No she doesn't this is the way you want your dish, it goes without saying.....

Insert footballs into the above statement and think on it....

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Ohio FanaticOhio Fanaticsubscriber
May 6, 2015, 02:01 PM

To say we are disappointed in its findings, which do not include any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation of footballs at the AFC Championship Game, would be a gross understatement," Kraft wrote.

I guess Kraft has to try and protect his franchise, but his statement seems very lawyer like. Whatever the punishment, we will all inevitably be disappointed.

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Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
May 6, 2015, 02:02 PM

I'm glad that the official report at least has the appearance of being unbiased. I expect the league to do little or nothing though. A fine maybe.

HEheylookatmeforum_veteran
May 6, 2015, 02:07 PM

This is really bad... for Tom Brady.

Clark KentClark Kentforum_veteran
May 6, 2015, 02:09 PM

The league won't do anything. According to what I've read of the Wells report (excepts only), there's no indisputable evidence. Robert Kraft made this point as well. In addition, he and Goodell are buddies, so if the scale is even or close to, that tips it in NE's favor.

One thing I found interesting though, is the Colts had 4 balls under PSI regulation...

unluckylucianounluckylucianoNew Member
May 6, 2015, 02:10 PM

"finyank13 wrote:

It starts with their 1st and 2nd next year and a 5M dollar fine, remember this is the SECOND TIME they got caught.....

And honestly don't tell me that BB didn't know....I have said it all along this has been their practice for many games now, if fact it is so common place that they don't even discuss it anymore, it is just known, "do it"....

If your wife for 15 years made you chicken parm without mozzarella cheese but instead American (nobody does that hahahah) you think in year 16 or 17 she is going to all a sudden ask you if you want mozzarella on your chicken parm? No she doesn't this is the way you want your dish, it goes without saying.....

Insert footballs into the above statement and think on it....

you're stating what should happen. It probably won't.

thanks to VO for the sick ass sigs.


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Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
May 6, 2015, 02:13 PM

Im calling it Brady will get suspended 4 games minimum and they will lose a first round pick. Maybe two.

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
May 6, 2015, 02:13 PM

Also Gisele will divorce Brady.

MonstBlitzMonstBlitzforum_veteran
May 6, 2015, 02:14 PM

Well at least it's not being completely swept under the rug. Now let's see what Goodell does to see if I gain any small amount of respect.

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
May 6, 2015, 02:16 PM

It was at least amusing to see that Kraft is all pissed off about it. :lol:

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
May 6, 2015, 02:17 PM

"MonstBlitz wrote:

Well at least it's not being completely swept under the rug. Now let's see what Goodell does to see if I gain any small amount of respect.

I doubt he takes it easy on them. As much of a Patriot fan he is hes not going to be so lenient especially with how everything had been the past year and a half. He only has one way to handle tough situations and thats a death penalty punishment.

unluckylucianounluckylucianoNew Member
May 6, 2015, 02:21 PM

I think they'll use this report to say "see we keep our house in order", then do very little discipline wise, even though this is the second time the patriots under bb and brady have been caught cheating.

thanks to VO for the sick ass sigs.


Charlie: If you're not as educated or as informed what you do is you start your own party and you yell the loudest.

HEheylookatmeforum_veteran
May 6, 2015, 02:22 PM

This report is devastating to the Patriots, even if Goodell goes easy on them.

MonstBlitzMonstBlitzforum_veteran
May 6, 2015, 02:23 PM

"Vertical Limit wrote:

I doubt he takes it easy on them. As much of a Patriot fan he is hes not going to be so lenient especially with how everything had been the past year and a half. He only has one way to handle tough situations and thats a death penalty punishment.

I sure hope you're right, but I'm not holding my breath.

Stringer BellStringer Bellsubscriber
May 6, 2015, 02:25 PM

They absolved Belichick, which means there won't be a significant punishment IMO.

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cuchulainncuchulainnsubscriber
May 6, 2015, 02:33 PM

$50 fine, $5000 donation to deflator's anonymous, and time served.

Case dismissed.

finyank13finyank13New Member
May 6, 2015, 02:37 PM

"Clark Kent wrote:

The league won't do anything. According to what I've read of the Wells report (excepts only), there's no indisputable evidence. Robert Kraft made this point as well. In addition, he and Goodell are buddies, so if the scale is even or close to, that tips it in NE's favor.

One thing I found interesting though, is the Colts had 4 balls under PSI regulation...

In that report there is evidence of one of the equipment managers who calls himself the "deflator" texting about doing it......

“If you told me A-Rod flew on a spaceship from Mars to here, I wouldn't be surprised."--thephins.com poster Ray Finkle on A-Rod

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