What's your opiinion on draft prospects continuing for a fourth year? Is it always a good thing?

 

I will believe it once that final deceleration day passes. It is way too early for a team leader like him, in the NC hunt to say something other than what he did.

 

Probably wants to erase the doubts caused by his average soph year. Really could've applied for the draft with a sky-high stock in a very weak QB class.

 

what is this years draft high in?

 

It's looking good for O-line, D-line, and LB. Essentially a Bill Parcells draft wet dream. Hard to say more until the juniors declare.

 

Awesome.

 

Bradford has less reason to come out. This is only his second year, and pro guys like experience in their QB prospects. Number of games started and completion percentage are the two highest correlating factors when it comes to QB prospects doing well in the pros. Bradford lost the Red River Rivalry game, and that should mean he stays in school.

As for McCoy, I too will wait for the final day. If he wins the National Championship, no reason for him to stay. He'll have 39 games with of experience by then...PLENTY. If he stays for another year, ends up with like 52 games of experience...that will be one ripe quarterback I think.

 

When is their deadline to make themselves eligable for the draft?

 

January 15 I believe. Lotta good names in the underclassmen side (Selvie, Crabtree, Maclin, Heyward-Bey, Wells, Spikes).

 

I'm putting myself firmly in the wait and see department with regards Colt and indeed everyone else.

 

I'm sure he'll change his mind if he wins the NC this year.

 

Mack Brown does have a good reputation for keeping his Texas boys in school.

But...wouldn't Colt have graduated after this year? He redshirted in 2005, so he should graduate in 2008 if he hasn't already. You have to wonder why he would go back to school for a fifth year. I think everyone believes that Matt Leinart made a mistake when he made a similar decision. Everyone knew he wasn't taking any real classes, he'd already graduated, and it enhanced his reputation as loving the celebrity USC life more than football, and being afraid of the challenges that await him in the pros. Colt McCoy would be making a mistake, IMO, to go back even if he's already graduated. Scouts and GMs would start to question whether he's really anxious for the challenges that await him in the pros.

 

He also qualified early because that was part of the reason why Jevan Snead left UT for Ole Miss; McCoy got a pretty big leg up over Snead in terms of learning the offense and the higher rated recruit lost out.

 

It would definitely be a confusing decision. I can't say as I would back him on that decision.

 

A bit OT, but is there such a thing as "too ripe" where the player gets so acclimated to the speed of the game on the college or any particular level that transitioning to a different level of play becomes too much to handle? basically, is there such a thing as too much experience prior to the NFL? To be perfectly honest this was a concern I had with Chad Henne (and about the only one I had). :up:

 

No, I don't believe there is such thing as too much experience. But, I think delaying his arrival to the NFL could be a sign of unwillingness or reluctance to deal with the new challenge and that could be a big factor in his pro career.

 

By the way. I know this isn't the thread at hand, but has anyone been paying attention to a 6'0'' 200lb DB by the name of DeAngelo Willingham? #24 for Tennessee, I have a feeling we'll be all over this guy come April. Good hips for a guy his size, and he can change driection well. Peeks into the backfield too much, but that hoepfully can be rectified.

 

When it comes to DBs, if I were a team I couldn't wait to get my hands on Eric Berry or Morgan Burnett.

 

Me either. Those two guys are tremendous players. Berry's so good Phil Fulmer is looking to play him on offense as well.

 

Physical as well and love those long arms. He's the JUCO guy isn't he. Think he signed with Georgia out of HS then failed to make the grade academically.

 

I don't know the personal history, but talent wise he caught my attention. A.Q. Shipley is having a good season, and should climb up boards over the next few months.

 

Just watching more of McCoy -he's SUCH a timing passer, he's really not going to be to everyone's taste. I can't see him in anything other than a pretty well maintained WCO.

BTW Con - did you mean Andre Smith in your PM?

 

Yes I did, I thought I may have messed up the name. :lol:

I am so bad with names,..........numbers I'm great with, but names not so much.

 

Con, did you watch the OSU/PSU game by chance? :shifty:

 

Yes, a bit of it. And you want to know about Alex Maybin?:shifty:

 

I hope ya'll are watching this game tonight. Big QB battle going on, seems like we have that every week with Colt McCoy. He just executed a beautiful pump fake that I'm pretty sure got Malcolm Williams wide open on the vertical, threw a nice overhead strike and Williams goes 90 yards for a TD. Texas is on the comeback, down by 3 now.

And Graham Harrell is a pretty good QB in his own right. He's been my favorite senior QB.

 

Great game. This texas tech offense is **** in the red zone.

 

Crabtree is a man... Love how big, strong, and physical he is. I though he should just step out, but nope. He just overpowers that guy. Great blocker too. Very Hines Ward like.

His voice sounds like Richard Pryor...

/endthreadjack

 

Why not go for two? This coach is an idiot...

 

What a quarterback duel. No shame for Colt McCoy in this one. Texas Tech's D was after him all night and he still came out on top but Harrell's offense just came out and did some crazy stuff. Also, let's face it, the game was in and out of Gideon's hands.

 

Holy crabtree batman...

What a play...what a player..

The natural ability to use his hands under extreme pressure and the awareness to stay in bounds, shake the tackler, and score

 

Interesting point about McCoy. I watched quite a bit of the UGA/UF game- Stafford spent more time on his butt than Karpov at a chess tournament. Not his fault. His team was outplayed thoroughly. But I still take Stafford over McCoy, Bradford, or any other QB out there. The 3 picks were a concern, but he had to force the action. And there were some great passes dropped. And he's a leader, plays through pain, etc. That safety lookoff on one of his dart throws was a thing of beauty. Stafford is the real deal, IMO. Take him and don't look back.

 

He's far too inconsistent as a COLLEGE QB at this stage let alone as a pro. He has all the tools and a beautiful arm, but he needs to stay at Georgia for his senior season and learn how to play the position.

 

Fully agreed on that one. Bad decisions and bad throws are still too frequent for him. He needs a lot of starts under the belt before I can be comfortable with that.

And Tebow, forget it. I wouldn't want to touch him if I were an NFL coach.