****The Official 2014-15 NBA Thread****
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MikeHonchoSupporter"Launchpad McQuack wrote:
Hassan Abdul-Jabarside!
That sounds like a no-fly list name.
Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.
FinSaneForum Veteran"Vertical Limit wrote:
Lol man there cant possibly be a worst feeling than being a Nets fan... I dont even want to know that feeling... That is beyond rock bottom and they dont even have the worst record in the league so they will continue to suck... Ouch
Russia's economy is imploding and their owner is losing money. Suddenly he can't afford an NBA team and have one of the highest payrolls in the league. I had a feeling they would implode. Jay-Z needs to buy that team already.
schmoliootSupporter"Launchpad McQuack wrote:
Russia's economy is imploding and their owner is losing money. Suddenly he can't afford an NBA team and have one of the highest payrolls in the league. I had a feeling they would implode. Jay-Z needs to buy that team already.
The guy is still majorly wealthy.
He wanted a title in 5 years, it didn't happen, and it looks like it won't happen anytime soon.
He doesn't care enough to see it through
FinSaneForum Veteran"schmolioot wrote:
The guy is still majorly wealthy.
He wanted a title in 5 years, it didn't happen, and it looks like it won't happen anytime soon.
He doesn't care enough to see it through
He tried to buy a title and as soon as the ruble collapsed it was time for a firesale.
Vertical LimitForum Veteran"Launchpad McQuack wrote:
Russia's economy is imploding and their owner is losing money. Suddenly he can't afford an NBA team and have one of the highest payrolls in the league. I had a feeling they would implode. Jay-Z needs to buy that team already.
Jay Z cant afford it... maybe if he put together a group. His net worth has been incredibly exaggerated and he only owns a stock of the team worth 300 grand... Also because he runs a sports agency now he cant own a team.
It will be a popular buy but This guy will try to sell it based on the Clippers price.
305Forum VeteranIf only Ross would sell out of Miami to get into Ny
We're all here because we're all not there.
Vertical LimitForum VeteranThat be great.. I'm almost certain Ross loves New York more than Miami.. he can sell the team here and buy the Nets instead...
TiP54New MemberI think it doesn't matter if Whiteside starts or not, as long as he spends most time on the floor.
As for Bron, I think if he plays about 7-8 more years he will be top 5 all time, even if he doesn't win another title.
DesidesForum Veteran"Launchpad McQuack wrote:
So you think its better to start Birdman who gets burnt out by the 2nd Q?
Birdman's minutes in the last 3 games: 12:17, 26:44, 17:13. Total: 56:14.
Whiteside's minutes in the same games: 28:55, 21:16, 28:43. Total: 78:54.
It's like a broken record with you. What part of total minute count being more important than starting is so difficult? Seriously. What is your problem?
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GARDENHEADSupporterDude bought the Nets for something like $220 million. The Clips just sold for TWO BILLION!!!
I'd sell too! That's a crazy return on an investment.
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FinSaneForum Veteran"Desides wrote:
Birdman's minutes in the last 3 games: 12:17, 26:44, 17:13. Total: 56:14.
Whiteside's minutes in the same games: 28:55, 21:16, 28:43. Total: 78:54.It's like a broken record with you. What part of total minute count being more important than starting is so difficult? Seriously. What is your problem?
My problem is I don't see starting Whiteside as a deterrent to success. We seem to disagree with that. I think he'll get better playing starter minutes. The more experience he gains the better. Sure if he can get more minutes even if he's not starting, but why not start him? Sure he might pick up early fouls, but let him work out the kinks and he should be fine. Now if he continues to habitually pick up fouls early on games for a sustained period, then bench him. But I just don't see the downside to not starting him at the moment. Unless you give me a logical reason why we shouldn't start him, what's the big deal?
DesidesForum Veteran"Launchpad McQuack wrote:
My problem is I don't see starting Whiteside as a deterrent to success. We seem to disagree with that.
I disagree with your reasoning that the season is lost, therefore we might as well start Whiteside and develop him. The season's not lost, and Whiteside's development doesn't hinge on starting him, his development hinges on how many minutes he plays—and he's playing more than Birdman!
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FinSaneForum Veteran"Desides wrote:
I disagree with your reasoning that the season is lost, therefore we might as well start Whiteside and develop him. The season's not lost, and Whiteside's development doesn't hinge on starting him, his development hinges on how many minutes he plays—and he's playing more than Birdman!
I never said the season is necessarily lost, just that we're not very likely to be contending for a title. Why would starting Whiteside hurt us even if we're contending? In either case, I just think Whiteside should be starting since he's younger and more talented to those who have started at C ahead of him(or before he got here). In the short time he's been here, he's earned a starting spot in this team.
FinSaneForum VeteranThis is the first time all season I'm actually looking forward to a Heat game. I really like watching this kid play. I don't get as many Heat games up here but I try to catch them nationally or online whenever I can. But tonight I wanna see them play. It's a weird feeling I haven't felt since....last summer. :shifty:
Vertical LimitForum Veteran6 minutes in and he already has two personal fouls... Hassan really needs to clean that up.... this is what is limiting his minutes .. and other teams are starting to notice he's foul prone so they're going at him..
FinSaneForum Veteran"Vertical Limit wrote:
6 minutes in and he already has two personal fouls... Hassan really needs to clean that up.... this is what is limiting his minutes .. and other teams are starting to notice he's foul prone so they're going at him..
As I said, gotta work out the kinks.
Boik14Supporter"Vertical Limit wrote:
That be great.. I'm almost certain Ross loves New York more than Miami.. he can sell the team here and buy the Nets instead...
If theres anything I can do to facilitate this, let me know. Get that nerd out of Miami.
ckparrotheadStaffAnyone know where I can stream the Heat game?
Ah never mind. Game's over. Now 18-22 with upcoming games against Charlotte and Indiana. Not bad. Then Chicago, Milwaukee and Dallas. Then Boston, Detroit and Minnesota. Then the Spurs.
Whadya think...back to .500 after the Cleveland game?
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Vertical LimitForum VeteranGood win, looks like the month might end on a solid note.
Vertical LimitForum Veteran"ckparrothead wrote:
Anyone know where I can stream the Heat game?
Ah never mind. Game's over. Now 18-22 with upcoming games against Charlotte and Indiana. Not bad. Then Chicago, Milwaukee and Dallas. Then Boston, Detroit and Minnesota. Then the Spurs.
Whadya think...back to .500 after the Cleveland game?
dallas and spurs are the ones i will count us out on... The rest are winnable tho wouldnt shock me if we lost a couple... Hope im wrong and we beat them all though.
sports24/7SupporterAccording to the Herald, the Heat are rumored to be looking to make moves and it mentions Cole, Anderson, Deng, Chalmers, McRoberts, and Haslem as guys being talked about as possibilities to get moved. Anyone hear anything other than the Lopez deal?
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Vertical LimitForum VeteranI dont think Deng gets moved unless he is packaged for an all star in return, but it wont be Lopez.. Deng stays.
DesidesForum VeteranHeat go 3-2 on the road trip of death. Much better than the 1-4 some expected. Heat are still under .500, but have gone up to the 7 Seed and are 3rd in the division. No one's catching the Hawks, but getting a mid-level playoff Seeding seems realistic at this point.
MIA vs CLE in round 1?
"Launchpad McQuack wrote:
Why would starting Whiteside hurt us even if we're contending?
My problem is that your entire logic is predicated on not contending. As in, "just play the young guys and see what we have for next year." I reject this logic because this Heat team is not in that position. This isn't the Lakers. Whiteside may very well earn a starting spot—but not because the Heat are not contending. It is too early to determine who is and is not contending, especially since this team has two Hall of Famers on it.
Your supporting reasoning is a gigantic knee jerk reaction to something that isn't true. That's my problem with it.
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FinSaneForum Veteran"Desides wrote:
Heat go 3-2 on the road trip of death. Much better than the 1-4 some expected. Heat are still under .500, but have gone up to the 7 Seed and are 3rd in the division. No one's catching the Hawks, but getting a mid-level playoff Seeding seems realistic at this point.
MIA vs CLE in round 1?
My problem is that your entire logic is predicated on not contending. As in, "just play the young guys and see what we have for next year." I reject this logic because this Heat team is not in that position. This isn't the Lakers. Whiteside may very well earn a starting spot—but not because the Heat are not contending. It is too early to determine who is and is not contending, especially since this team has two Hall of Famers on it.
Your supporting reasoning is a gigantic knee jerk reaction to something that isn't true. That's my problem with it.
More like let's play guys who have upside for THIS YEAR and see how it works out. What I meant was, we're not a top seeded team at the moment, so starting Whiteside now would not hurt us for the playoffs. That would be a different situation if we were. Since we're a borderline playoff team right now and needing something of a spark to get us playing better, my logic says start Whiteside, have him work out his kinks, then hope we play better after the All-Star break to hopefully catch fire as we make a run for the playoffs.
rafaelForum VeteranI don't see starting or not starting Whiteside as a factor that matters for this season. Personally, I would focus on developing Whiteside for the long term. That would involve some starting and some coming off the bench (for the slightly different dynamic), but more importantly it would involve minutes. The minutes are what matters. The starting or not starting designation is largely meaningless.
