So you studied every team's 90 players and know we're the worst?
Have you seen our cap room for next season?

 

If I'm not mistaken, we have a ton of cap room space. I don't think our cap situation is bad.

 

To the soapbox in 3...2....1....

 

Running game is fine, D should be good, but losing VD will hurt us no doubt.

This is rebuilding, what kills me is that it did not have to be this way.

 

We traded away a lazy bum for a second round pick.
Get over it.

 

cap room is fine on our team.... talent is another question.

 

A lot of knee jerking going on in the forums today. Wish I was a leg doctor.

 

:omg:

 

Helllllllllllo ignore list. La la la.

 

VD was no slouch.....up until last year and this years training camp he was considered to be among the top 10 or so CB in the league. Funny how all of the sudden he's a lazy bum and a bust. VD was probably one of the best man to man cover CB in the NFL. Plus he is physical and plays the run well....last year his tackling fell off yes but he is in no way a average run of the mill CB. Any time I have ever heard him in discussions on tv or what not people always have him at high praise. The Colts got a bargain and VD will play great football for years to come.

 

Nah, you can see this coming, giving away Marshall and Davis, two playmakers for draft picks speaks loud and clear as to what Philbin thinks of the team.

Rebuilding, thank the good Lord for the BC Lions, at least they know what the hell they are doing.

 

This thread has a way bigger defecit of quality than our roster.

 

It's hard to cover someone if you are too overweight to breathe.

 

Vontae is decent but not great, he gets burned way too often to be a top 10 CB.

 

I used to be an Ireland defender. No more. I argued endlessly around how treated Dez and defended him over it.
I'm done defending and supporting Ireland. His track record is abysmal. 6 years to fix the OL and we still can't get it right.

Now we trade our 2nd best player on offense and 2nd best player on D for draft picks that will surely be wasted like a majority of his draft picks.
This guy is a certified disaster.

 

What are the people who are tired of reading the bull**** overreactions by 70% of the forum?

 

Hes lazy in the off-season regarding conditioning. He isnt a bad CB when he actually plays. Im ok with the move as long as that 2nd pick works out. IF.

 

He also has more career picks than the rest of the returning DBs combined.

 

Vontae seems to make big plays but gives up big plays. I know some people will point out "WELL RICHARD MARSHALL SUCKED AGAINST ATLANTA!!" but from I remember (I only watched the game once) it seemed like when the ball was completed around Marshall it was when we were in zone coverage and Ryan just found a soft spot between Marshall and a linebacker. I'd have to go back and look to see if I'm completely right but I'm pretty sure that was the case.

I think we are intending to re-sign Sean Smith and felt that Vontae Davis hadn't shown enough thus far for the coaching staff and front office to feel that he would be a long-term plan for them at cornerback. So we dealt him to get what we could out of him... if the light went on for Vontae, he could be a top 5 cornerback in the NFL. But will the light come on? If I was a betting man, I'd say no.

 

Its that cut and dry huh?

I think we all need to stop watching Hard Knocks, or at least you!

 

If that's the goal, we need to also get rid of Dansby.

 

You may choose to ignore the fact that Vontae was lazy an uninspired. Hell even his teammates were avoiding him.
Sorry man but it's real.
Vontae got his *** humped in camp and he couldn't hang.

 

was going to be a horror show of a year with or without Davis.

 

Is there a bright side? And not a sarcastic one but seriously?

The team is gloomy enough. Need some fanspiration.

 

Where do I sign? Talk about a guy who doesn't earn his paycheck...if someone is dumb enought o give a 4? Do it!

 

If we were going to trade someone, it should have been Bush. The guy's value is higher than it was last year, he's older and won't be around when we're good, and we have young guys at that position to fill in.
Instead, we trade a young guy from a position where we're thin.
It makes very little sense.

 

I agree with you about Ireland. I was ready to give him the benefit of the doubt, but the last couple drafts and free agency periods have made up my mind about him. He's not a good evaluator and he's a horrible "people person" who will never be able to attract free agents.

 

I see what your saying but I really don't think the coaching staff had any input on this one. I realize Davis didn't show up to camp ready to play but he clearly moved from 4th to 3rd this week. If the coaches were in the loop, it doesn't make any sense for Davis to play at all on Friday night. The Colts obviously aren't going to do this deal for an injured player.

I made the assumption that the team passed on Flynn because Philbin wasn't sold on him. I'm not so sure about that anymore. We'll see what happens, but if I were going to rate the player additions of 2 bad teams last year, I'd say the Colts are already improving at a faster rate than the Dolphins and I'm not including Andrew Luck.

 

I loved Vontaes game, but if you gotta chance to play a game, to set you and your family for life, and attitude and laziness was a problem, you probably fit the script as a bum.

 

I expect Ireland to waste the pick, and (based on his 5 year sample size), I dont have much reason to believe otherwise