Not much more to say? We crapped the bed! You do NOT lose a game like that, leading 17 at halftime when the defense is playing well.

Offense gave up 14 points (thanks Tannehill) and special teams accounted for 7 of our points, so what does that mean? Offense was responsible for -4 total points!! When your offense GIVES the opponents points, the only way to win the game is if your defense scores points. Sorry, but that's not a winning strategy.

This could be a pivotal game for Gase + Tannehill.. we'll see.

 

This is the type of game that proves to me that we need to find a different quarterback. Not saying Tannehill is horrible because statistically he isn’t but I do not believe he is ever going to more than a care taker QB who is to have perfection around him to be good. He is never going to carry the team or inspire the player around him to over achieve. Every year teams have injuries and you have to adapt.

Tannehill and Gase seem to be able to adapt. Gase play calling blows my mind on three drives today we had 3rd and 1 or 3rd and 2 and we live up in shotgun and pass long and miss. Yet on 2-20 you run the ball.

If we can’t get 1-2 yards with a big package from our QB or Hall of Fame calibar Running back than there is a serious problem with this team.

The defense played well enough to win but we **** the bed on offense again. Tannehill should be traded if possible because he’s not worth a big contract extension at all, and Gase has lost my confidence over the last few weeks. I Just think this tandem is going to work out and will be the downfall of both men’s NFL careers.

 

Three is a critical number. Once an offensive line loses three starters the offense can't function anymore. One you can compensate. Two you can overcome. Three it's over unless one of your backups is starting quality.

 

Yes theee is a huge number of offensive starters to lose I’ll give you that. But to overcome that Gase should have been putting Tannehill in the shotgun which bus you a few seconds to find someone, but instead we mostly he was directly under the center. And got pressured and threw two horrible passes that got intercepted. He should know better with a lead or tied to take the sack.

 

I'm just crying in my beer.

 

Honestly Dude it doesn’t matter if tunsil gets healthy. We have one of the 3 worst qbs in the nfl. He is completely lost out there he has zero awareness he’s a robot that can’t move. And Gase is a fraud. 3rd and inches running game rolling run the damn ball! Get got bailed out at the half with grants td after he refuses to run in 3rd and 2 ms make them use a time out. I know he said handicapped with a one read robot that can’t play football. So run the ball! Tannehill got us 10 points and he have up 14 on a bad defense. The guy cannot play. Every week on a third and short he launches it deep incomplete. He only runs if it’s designed run. Dalton wasn’t so much better wow. Watching dalton strike over the middle and throw under pressure and even run for yards. This team may beat some horrid teams Bc the defense is really good and gets turnovers and scores on special teams. If anyone still thinks Ryan Tannehill is an nfl qb, you’re blind. Gase dumbs it doen screens and dump offs to help him. But, the guy is horrid. He isn’t just below average wint be great he is one of the worst starters in the league. He can’t lead, he has no awareness, he can’t attack, he’s a deer in headlights, very very low football iq. Wish we could have traded up for darnold or baker. Tannehill is and always has been a loser l. Never great at any level. Franchise killer

 

Excuse me while a take a dump on my living room floor

 

It's not three offensive players. It's three offensive line starters. You don't overcome that. You don't scheme your way out of that. You can't chip three players every play. It's not particular to the dolphins. It's a general rule of thumb for the nfl. Taught to me by a bookie when I was a wee lad. You're right we could have escaped with a win if we didn't turn the ball over but I made the point in regards to the season. If tunsil is out for some length of time this season is over

 

In 5 wide shotgun, Tannehill was dropped in almost under 2 seconds.

 

Yeah the OL was porous, but did you see how often Tannehill just stood there and took the sack without even attempting to get away? And don't forget the bad decisions that led to the pick 6's (even if only one counted on the stat sheet). A better QB, not even elite, would have easily preserved the 17-0 lead we had in the 3rd quarter.

There's no question our OL has been bad for who knows how long, but don't let it occlude the obvious now: Tannehill is not the answer.

 

Keep drinking it gets better

 

It's really that simple. A 30 yr old QB...and excuses are still being made. Will excuses still be made when he's 35? 40?

 

You really think so? Gase is a control freak and Tannehill-type personalities are perfect for him. I doubt Gase thinks he's made a mistake at QB. It would impress me though if Gase does a 180. I mean.. whatever we think Ross' opinion is all that counts, and barring a massive collapse I'm sure Gase is here next year (Ross has said how many times he wants to be patient?) so I sure hope he realizes he needs a better QB and uses what might be a decent pick (probably 10-15 as usual.. just outside where we need it) on one.

 

Losing Tunsil was huge! Once that happened that was it. Gase had no answer on how to deal with it either. I don't know why we didn't just play the short game. Seems like we tried and still couldn't get time. I don't wanna go down a Tannehill rabbit hole, but that is the difference between a QB like him and an elite QB like Aaron Rodgers (for example). Great QB's just find a way to make it happen when it matters the most no matter what the circumstances are. I've been a big Tannehill supporter for a lot of years, but this was bad today. I mean....We had a sexy lead going into the fourth and we let dumb things happen over and over. I actually sat in my front yard and listened to the final drive where the game was still in hand and that Hubbard kid came up with the INT TD. I remember thinking "Ok RT, this is your chance to take us down the field and win this game. Three minutes and change left, with all three timeouts and that happens. That is Ryan Tannehill and his career in a nutshell. Next week against the Bears I bet he plays great! I bet he throws 2-3 TD's and we make a game out of it with them. That's the thing, he'll bounce back, but as soon as I become a believer he reverts to games like this. NOw, i'm not putting all of this on him, but the offense was trash today aside from a few drives in the first half and when the game got tight, we folded under the pressure. It's early in the season still and we are 3-2 so i'll wait to panic. We did have this game today in hand and blew it. How serious is the Tunsil injury? That is absolutely crucial at this point. Can't lose that guy or it will be a long year. Tannehill isn't skilled enough to overcome something like that. Not many QB's are.

 

I just see no point in bringing in a rookie qb when the line is as bad as it is. Thill clearly is not looking like the solution but i still dont think hes the biggest problem.

 

Injuries have caused our team to unravel. It happens to the best of them, even teams that are much better than us. There is not much we can do because we have to play with what we have. Today we could have been successful, but we compounded the situation with stupid mistakes like personal foul penalties, failing to protect the football, and giving up easy points. Our coaching, RT, and our team depth are not good enough to overcome these things, so really we got what we deserve. This game was disappointing. However, it's only the beginning of QTR 2. We have 2 home games and can get things back on track if we learn to play smart. The big question is, will we?

 

Hey I stand by what I said pre-season that we judge only after this season's over.. but the signs are pointing in the wrong direction. And for me the worst outcome is something around 8-8 so that's what I'm fearing right now.

 

Get rid of Tannehill...you would have about $15-20 mil extra in the off-season to buy the top 2 or 3 offensive linemen available in free agency. Problem solved.

 

That approach did not work to well this offseason.

 

Well, that's what happens when you buy a used up 35 yr old guard and an average center.

For $15-20 mil, you can get a couple of young, proven studs. Fix the oline for the next 4-5 years, and develop your rookie 1st round QB with all these speedy weapons.

 

No he is horrible. One of the worst situational qbs I’ve ever seen. It’s like s robot is out there who doesn’t know the score or down and distance. Horrid player.

 

Except at this point I dont see one thats worth it coming out next year. Maybe one of them will step up but havent seen it yet. Dont draft one just to say did.

 

OK.. so any theories on why Tannehill isn't continuing the form that he left off with in 2016? We haven't seen any game from him approaching that San Diego game, SF game or Arizona game. I mean by now we should have seen not just one such game but a few.

The guy is physically healthy. So what happened mentally?

 

Rust? I have no idea. Pressure? I think we all agree he is not the best under pressure.

 

It was a fluke and he played above his level and has now fallen to regression. That's the easiest. Bad QBs sometimes put together a solid stretch before they come back to earth. Look at Fitzmagic.

 

I am.

 

I missed most of the first half...got to the sports bar when Grant returned the punt for the TD and I was elated and felt we were going to put our foot on Cincinnati's neck. Maybe I should've just stayed home, huh? LOL But in all seriousness...

As was pointed out, when you lose THREE starting offensive linemen, you're in trouble...DESPERATE trouble, but we seemed to be overcoming it in the first half. It looks as if at halftime, Marvin Lewis read Newt Gingrich's book, "Understanding Trump" in which Gingrich illustrates the military strategy penned by retired Air Force Colonel John Boyd of "OODA Loop". For those not familiar with the doctrine, OODA Loop stands for

Observe
Orient
Decide
Act
Then quickly LOOP back to observe

Although Miami's offense was anemic the first half, the piece mealed offensive line was apparently doing a good enough job in protecting Tannehill. Lewis OBSERVED was was happening, ORIENTED himself to the facts and circumstances surrounding him and his team, DECIDED on a plan and the ACTED on it. The second half, the portion of the game I saw, Tannehill was running for his life. The piece mealed section of the offensive line was being overloaded and was unable to handle the rush. This resulted in Tannehill taking sacks or the offensive line to be penalized for holding, which backed the Dolphins up into 2nd and 3rd & long situations. Gase didn't OODA Loop because if he had, he would have changed his entire offensive strategy.

We all know I'm a HUGE proponent on running the football. Even if you don't have success, keep running it. When you force the defense to keep 7 or even 8 in the box to contain the run, big passing plays will come. Gase should have called for an additional 2 TE package, with a full back and hand the ball off to Gore. It's no secret that playing defense is more fatiguing than playing offense. The defense must REACT to the offense and is playing "catch up". Had Gase altered his strategy to an in your face, smash mouth football with extra TE's for blocking, the Bengal's defense would have fatigued, the clock would have become our ally and big plays would have presented themselves. Sadly, this is not how Adam Gase calls a game.

Adam Gase is a proponent of getting the ball into the hands of playmakers and giving them an opportunity to make plays, hence many of the bubble or standard screen plays. Gase wants to get the ball into the hands of players like Stills, Wilson, Gore and Drake and let them use the athleticism to make the play. This calls for a lot of trust that your players are able to execute the plays called and having faith that they are able to make the plays you are entrusting them to make. The problem though is that this can be easily sniffed out after a while and no matter how athletically gifted your players are, they can only avoid a swarm of defenders for so long. Remember the Wildcat and how effective it was the first year Sparano used it? After a while, teams prepared for it and were able to shut it down.

Athletically, our STARTING offensive line (in my opinion) is as good as they come and I do feel that once they are back in the line-up, Gore and Drake will be able to be effective in the ground game. Additionally, I don't think Tannehill will be running for his life, as he was today but if Gase doesn't OODA Loop and have the flexibility to adjust his game to the circumstances presented before him, he is putting his players in a no win situation.

Many of you have been head hunting Tannehill. You have to remember, Tannehill is merely the Captain of the ship underway. He is following the orders of the Admiral and executing (or attempting to execute) the plays that are given to him. I lay blame for today's loss on Gase...for not implementing OODA Loop more than I do on Tannehill.

 

I think it would be best for me personally to reserve full judgement until the end of the season regarding Tannehill. I'm not ready to say that it's time to move on, but anything less than playoffs is going to be it for me.

 

The admiral definitely deserves a lot of blame, but the captain we have just wasn't up to the task either and also deserves a lot of blame.

btw.. I know the military loves acronyms but this "OODA" loop, while popular, isn't really explaining anything. I mean when does a person NOT implement it? Every single person on this planet obtains information from his sensory system (observes), attends to certain stimuli over others (orients) and makes decisions that turn into actions. It's essentially impossible NOT to do that. Gase and Tannehill did that too.. the problem lies in the decisions they made.

 

I did not see the game but it seems everything went south after Tunsil went out with a concussion. At that point The Bengals started going after that side of the line.

 

Gase decided...acted, but never looped back to observe. That or he never re-oriented himself.

 

This team is a bunch of losers. They are not going anywhere NEAR the playoffs. So, its fine to wait until the year is over...but if you are waiting for the playoffs, that will not happen this year. This is NOT a playoff team. NE is clearly better. So at best, we'd be looking at a wildcard. So let's look at the other teams. Division Winners: NE, Cincy or Baltimore (both way better than we are) KC, JAX.

There is no path for Miami to the playoffs. After next week we'll be .500 so...