1:48:48

 

Clearly some cgi work there. We know better

 

How long was that? Wait nvm. Doesn't matter. It wasn't long enough to be considered deep ball.

 

WOW, Tanne connects on one 38 yd pass and you all start chirping.

It is what it is, deal with it.

 

Who exactly is chirping here? Because it looks like it's you.

 

Clutch throw because we REALLY needed it at the moment. Titan fans began to slowly exit their building after that happened.

 

That was a nice throw by T17!

 

Thanks for the link. Couldn't watch it live.

 

Whatever that was, it was 20 yards short of a deep ball.

 

Was a perfect throw but I can't stress how important it can be to have a receiver that can do what Kenny did on that play.

Here's the reason I say that. If you notice Blidi Wreh-Wilson's coverage on the play, it was actually good. He didn't **** up. This is the NFL, not college. In college guys will make an attempt to jam you at the line and end up whiffing and now you have a free outside release while still having the chance to maintain cushion between you and the sidelines, and it all looks very pretty. This didn't look pretty because Wreh-Wilson knows he has help to the inside, starts reading Kenny Stills' outside release right away, and he's squeezing the hell out of Kenny using the sideline as the 12th man. He's also using his NFL starting corner caliber 4.39 speed (not to mention 6'1" frame) to keep up with Kenny Stills, who has a disadvantage because he's being squeezed so far to the sideline that he's got a longer track to run.

But you know what? It doesn't matter. Kenny Stills (who has 4.32 speed) is just that fast and good at tracking the ball. There's no hesitation, he keeps running straight through it at full speed because he can track the football well enough to know that's what he needs to do. I see guys slow up then speed back up all the time, downshifting to give their eyes a chance to locate the ball then upshifting when they realize the QB laid it out for him to run under.

The play really shows what an asset Kenny Stills can be. He's under-utilized but part of that is because Miami has some other good players, Rishard Matthews being one of them.

 

Out of his own end zone. Impressive throw right there.

 

Those that say this wasn't a deep ball are...well I don't want to offend anyone so I won't say it harshly. Suffice it to say you're wrong.

It doesn't matter what measure you choose to designate whether it was a deep ball or not. The ball hits Stills about 26 yards vertically beyond the line of scrimmage, about 34 yards vertically from where Tannehill threw the thing, and traveled around 41-42 yards through the air on a high arc against single-high man coverage.

You won't find a single coach that decides to labor the point on whether that was a "deep ball" or not. Schematically it was a deep ball in that it was exactly what you do when you have a speedster in your arsenal and the defense decides to play him in press-man with single-high coverage. Mechanically it was a deep ball, as Ryan Tannehill pointed his front shoulder upward and lofted the ball on an arc. Distance-wise it was a deep ball, as the ball crossed 41-42 yards of distance in the air. Seriously there isn't a single test this doesn't pass when it comes to designating whether this qualifies as a "deep ball", unless you just start making up tests that have no significance in reality.

 

Quick, Pythagorean theorem, go!

 

Ryan also didn't hesitate and trusted his wr. As CK pointed out, Stills was well covered on this play. No one would have blamed tannehill for not throwing at stills here, but he throws a pin point deep ball anyway because he trusts stills.

He never trusted our past "speedster". You could see it in the timing

 

Well, I don't know if I agree with this. From a scheme standpoint the ball went where it had to go. I'd have criticized Tannehill if he shied away from throwing to Stills on that play.

 

Exactly right. You've got a 6'1" corner that runs a 4.39, he starts out his coverage textbook, and the play worked anyway because you made the mistake of 1) playing him press-man, and 2) having single-high coverage.

If you're a defense, it's scary that you got burned for that because it REALLY limits what you can do if you decide that you can't play that way anymore.

 

Maybe Im wrong, but I dont think I am.....

I think you may have seen the effect of Al Saunders there. Chris Chambers was talking about what Al Saunders was like last week on Finsiders and said he teaches Qbs on throwing the deep ball to a WR...you let the WR get 10 yards off the LOS and then Let it Go....you dont wait for them to get open, you let them run under it.

Unless Im mistaken...Stills is pretty damn close to 10 yards off the LOS when Tannehill throws it....he doesnt try to hit Stills as much as he just puts some air under it and lets Stills run under it in stride.

 

That's IMO the difference between Stills and Wallace. Stills is much better at tracking the ball and making adjustments. To me that far exceeds the difference in speed.

 

except Wallace had no issues tracking the ball in Pittsburg

It was a nice throw by Tannehill no question. Can he do it in the last 2 minutes of a game down by 6 is the question.

 

The answer is no. But that's because no defense is going to play press coverage up by six with 2 minutes to go

 

I remember reading detailed analysis about Wallace BEFORE we signed him...a bunch of people said he had trouble tracking balls and had a tiny catch radius down the field.

It did seem to me that Tannehill let this one go a little bit earlier than he would have last year. It looked more like the passes we saw from training camp. Putting this on tape will help the offense IMO.

 

Nail on the head there.

 

He did the year before he came to Miami. He was never consistent that way.

 

Lol..well lets see. Season on the line...Tenn had begun to turn momentum in their direction..backed up in his own endzone...

Im gonna say that was as clutch a throw as your gonna see...but thats just me

 

He had issues once they went to a timing offense.

How does Wallace look on deep balls again this season?

 

In an Offense in which he is featured, Wallace is averaging 5 catches per game, 58.3 ypg, .25 TD
He's on pace for 80 catches, 932 yards, 12.5 ypc, 4 TDs.

By comparison, and as a role player, Stills is currently averaging 2.5 cpg, 36.8 ypg, .25 TD
Translates to about 40 catches, 589 yards, 13.8 ypc, 4 TDs

Stills could easily surpass any game by Wallace if he were featured or targeted as often.

Also, TeddyB has thrown 3 TDs and 4 INTs this season. Yes, you read that correctly. My best friend is a Vikes fan. I'm loving it. lol...

 

22/33 for 256 yards, 11.6 YPC, 7.7 YPT, 1 TD, 1 20+ yard reception (4% of his catches)...longest reception from Teddy (who all the Wallace lovers said was going to air it out to Wallace in 2015) Bridgewater.....22 yards.

Now Rishard Matthews, since he's Miami's leading receiver:

23/32 for 363 yards, 15.8 YPC, 11.3 YPT, 3 TDs, 6 20+ yards receptions (over 25% of his catches)...longest reception from Ryan (couldn't throw a deep ball to save his life, particularly in a clutch moment) Tannehill.....48 yards.

So Wallace's numbers are lower than they were at Miami in all areas...and Matthews' numbers are higher than Wallace's the whole time he was in Miami.

DEFINITELY the QB.