Target Field late in the year. Is why the Twins fail.

 

that's an owner that gets it..from what we've seen transpire over the years in terms of evidence of a real home field advantage, for an owner to not capitalize on it, is pure stupidity.good for him, the vikes and their fans are very lucky.

sean payton..

The point is, the right teams who play in the right style of building, are expecting their fans to perform, that's right perform, just like the fans expect their teams to perform.only the ones who have it, know it creates an advantage for their team..

Yeah..just open your mind and think about that one..

fan performance is the next evolution in creating an edge..

It seems like whoever is in charge of this for us does not get it, and its a shame, there are ways to challenge our own to at least try to help with the disadvantage our building puts us in.

as far as updates...nothing, nada, he said back in august that he would give tallahasse another run, but that's it..

the mistakes are littered all over in how he's playing this, especially from a business oppurtunity,and also the city officials of Miami who are against it, they are all not progressive enough in their thinking.

first off, city of Miami officials?, how many superbowls do you have to lose to get it in your fat heads that you are going to lose money in the long run?...its just simple math and common sense..for them it was an investment of about 175mill roughly, you've already lost two bids..math 101...your going to lose more..

2nd..the money that the Viking owner will make by building a stadium catered to the experience the 12 th man will create will eventually pay for itself..math 101...its an investment for the future of the fan experience, and the best way to make people come to the building and spend their money? is to make them part of the competitive edge..brilliant yes?

3rd...we not only have 1 program suffering a culture crisis, we have two..if our owner was smart enough, and understood the concept, he would make the money back on two programs for the price of one, anyone that knows anything about our two cultures knows the venue and the beginning of the 12 th man came from US!!

All you have to do is build it, and they will come from all over to experience it, if, it is built with intimidation and intimacy, into the spec...alongside a campaign that will make your fandom explode..

The changes that he purposed to sunlife were good, the awning, the color change to the seats, the slight adjustments to some of the seats, however, if he were to just go for it himself, or get a group to go in with him, everyone related in two different programs would benefit, monetarily, competively, and culturally, the long term benefits are off the charts with this concept...

you know what I always wonder Dfin, if this venue could somehow go public in terms of a stock...I know I would buy.

 

I feel like I just left church when I read your posts about stadiums DJ. You are the preacher and your sermons get me all stirred up!!

Someone needs to get you a meeting with Ross and Garfinkle stat.

 

not the SB though, if you work your tail of for 6 months to get to that big stage, you have to worry about one more game still, but weather shouldn't be one of the points you have to worry about.....

lol at the ying yang twins....i think they are 99.9 percent pure garbage, they have a couple of decent songs out there but the rest sucks really bad

 

I'm in.

 

I like the elements. This past Sunday was awesome. But I also think a line can be drawn. Minnesota is the kind of place where it can be so bitterly cold and windy that it can actually detract from the game

One thing I really don't like are domes in warmer climates. NO and ATL are good examples. I think the game looks like crap on TV in domes

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well if this is the case then the entire playoffs need to be played in neutral territory.

 

I think that the power of a great home field is evident in Seattle and NO. Those teams look like juggernauts at home, but play almost as many close games as we do on the road. Arguably, we'd look like SB contenders if we had a similar home-field edge.

 

I would like Rafs on my team if I ever get a meeting...lol

That's a very powerful statement if you think about it in terms of economic impact of being a Super Bowl contender just because of a venue..

 

The Seattle stadium with the overhang, also takes into account the prevailing wins off Puget sound. SEA sideline is backed to the Sound side...whereas the visitors are facing the sound. Thus with the overhang, the frigid air, any snow, or rain, naturally blows over (for the most part) the SEA sideline, but dead into the face of the visitors sideline.

It is such a well designed stadium for many reasons listed....

P.S. I had the pleasure of going to the TB game (biggest comeback in franchise history ; a great stadium for a game)

 

Indeed he is smart if this concept was instructed by him to his architects and the blueprints reflect it...

The problem I have with the refurbishing of sunlife is your never going to get the upper deck closer, and that's a major problem, because the top row of the upper deck is not only the farthest away from the field than any other stadium in sports, it also has the largest seat count of any other upperdeck in football..

The money that it would involve wouldn't be wise in relation to a new one..if your truly looking for the advantage that I'm referring to with this concept

That being said, if your trying to improve the worst advantage in the game, then the awning will help, the addition and some reshifting of some concrete to the lower bowl to add some seats and take away from the upper deck would help, the seat color change would give it a better look inside, the big screens put right into the action in the middle of the upper decks would help..

 

I don't doubt that thats true, but Sitting in the same spot in JRS, Carolina and Cincinnati to see a game, there was very little difference (about the 50, halfway up the upper deck). About the same experience at each spot.

As to the rest, I look forward to the day in the future when all stadiums have a retractable roof. Football is best outside when its 65 and sunny, but I despise it when the elements come into play. The snow and slop make for a messy game where the best team doesn't necessarily win. Its something I live with, never something I enjoy.

And as a Fins fan, I cannot remember the last time that a Dolphins team went into a good team's home and won in cold weather, when that team was giving 100% (not benching players to rest them). Seriously, has it happened in the last 25 years?

 

Talking about bad stadiums......Met Life stadium is an atrocity........its ugly as sin and all that money they spent to build that POS, and they didn't put a retractable roof on it. They would have been in the Superbowl rotation had they put a roof on it. They are throwing them a bone getting the SB this year. You wont see it there again imo.

 

Thats probably because the same company built the panthers one, if you know what to look for, you will see a lot of similarities with sun life and panther stadium, their both not condusive to the level needed to create a 12 man movement..

The Bengal stadium isn't bad, I've been there a few times, it's a decent amount closer to the field that us or the panthers..

 

Maybe Ross shouldn't have bought the stadium too. He used his money to buy it, he should use his money to fix it. I can't send the FAA my truck repair bills even thought I work on aircraft.

 

I hate this post so much.

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Such good news that the jets won't be having an inherent advantage, looks as though they took none of the things mr wulf has taken into account.

 

Once again, if he was smart, he'd build the OB2..

 

If he was smart he would have told the Marlins to stay at JR and built OB2 on the site of OB1 and not let Marlins build that color swatch eyesore.

 

Of course, there was no vision to continue the reputation and culture we had already established..huge financial mistake..the teams and and fans have been paying for it ever since.

 

To me, I saw first hand what a new stadium could do for the Arizona Cardinals. When they used to play at Sun Devil Stadium I was a student there, they would handout tickets to students late on game day, no joke. They averaged like 35,000+ in ASU's 73,318 whatever capacity. Blacked out games every week. They should have built near Tempe, but due to politicians they stopped workage at that location due to -flight path bs- (Dbacks later built in the flight path...) but what have you. In the end they built far out west in Glendale, a roofed state of the art facility. Packed ever since.

 

I couldn't disagree more. It limits the passing game. It creates far more turnovers. It opens up the run. It strongly hampers the defense. Add all of those aspects up, and you're definitely not watching the two best teams in the NFL playing at their full potential. That's why the NFL doesn't grant northern Super Bowls in general and they'll be reminded of that this season.

One team will play their asses off making it to the big stage and there's a good chance that weather will limit them...although it may make for great television, it crushes a city when their team loses to Mother Nature. Just a bad idea.

 

It hampers both teams equally. The team with more will power, mental toughness, and skill will still win.

People need to stop acting like both teams don't play in the same weather. The best two teans rarely make the Siper Bowl anyway

 

This generation is spoiled and whiney.
Let's not forget that football is a WINTER sport and has always been played outside in the elements. People didn't cry that they were cold or wet.:cry: They sat there and rooted for there team no matter what.

 

Very true!

 

Football is an Autumn sport. Until they redid how the schedule is started in the early 90s, the regular season ended in mid December,, before the start of Winter.