Yeah, it was ridiculous. I mean you couldn't f things up more if you tried. Just on luck alone they should have hit on at least one move. It was just completely terrible.

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You miss an entire year and have no added talent, you set yourself back seasons


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When you put is this way it looks even worse than I remember. lol...What a bunch of imbeciles running the show back then. Also, when did they lose Vontae Davis? Was it this same year or the year before?

 

I still dont disagree on moving away from any of the players on the bottom half of the list, but yes, virtually every aquired player failed to pan out. Some were outright disasters. A few, keller and gibson, had horrible injuries. The rest just busted. Awful offseason.

 

2004, I think.

Lost Ricky Williams.
Lost starting C Tim Ruddy.
Lost starting RG Todd Perry.
Lost starting RT Todd Wade.
Lost starting FS Brock Marion.

Added A.J. Feeley by trading a 2nd round pick.
Traded Adewale Ogunleye for Marty Booker.
Traded a 3rd round pick for Lamar Gordon.
Traded a 4th round pick to move up one spot in the draft in the first round.

Poor draft class outside of Vernon Carey.

 

2007.

Cameron Worrell and Trent Green. Enough said.

 

I remember being so excited that offseason by a lot of those moves...I feel dumb looking back now.

In fairness you did leave out acquiring Brent Grimes, while we don't like his wife, he was very good for us most of the time he was here.

 

It was the year before, I gotta call my Grandma.

 

For me, losing Davis really stung.

 

Those moves explain why things went so bad.Thanks Queasy and company.

 

Simply stunning. Coming into it, it had the ability to transform the team for years. We had mountains of cap room and 5 picks in the top 100. Instead we got Clabo, Thomas and Wheeler, arguably three of the most inept starters ever to wear a Dolphins uniform. Oh and the biggest draft bust in franchise history.

 

The GM position is a scam in today's NFL, somebody should expose it..

 

Seeing how Sean Smith ended up being our no. 1 corner that following season I would say it stung alot more people than just you. :knucks:

 

I know. You really look around, at the pool of really good GM's is arguably even shallower than the pool of really good coaches.

 

Let's go back through the hundreds of Ireland threads and point and laugh at the dozens of homers who defended him.

 

That's why I always have to laugh so hard at people who say "well, the front office knows better than you or I about talent!" No, they freaking don't, most of the time. That's why so many teams have so many busts at high draft picks and expensive free agents. The collective opinion of the majority of fans is usually with the safe, conservative pick. GMs want to look like geniuses, so they take unnecessary risks with high contracts or players with big possible downsides.

 

Exactly, GMs think they know better than everybody and want to pull off some crazy moves to justify their salaries. We are better off drafting based on fan opinion polls. we'd probably make the playoffs every year if you left the draft and free agency picks up to the fans. They certainly would do better than all these wannabe know it all GMs.

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I criticize Wallace plenty, but he played very well his second session here.

 

I'll see your 2013 and raise you 1974.

Losing Csonka, Warfield and Kiick all signed with the WFL, they didn't leave until 1975, playing out their last year on their contracts. Losing 2 HOFers and a 2 time Pro bowler and breaking up the soul of the offens of a multiple SB team because your owner is a cheapskate beats fireland in my book.

We did draft Nat Moore, but the rest of the draft was pretty much a washout.

 

Ruddy and Perry were terrible and were cut for that reason. They were both out of the league after leaving Miami and never played another snap in the NFL.

 

Jamar F.N. Fletcher


Instead of Brees or Boldin who were begging to be phins. The memory is to painful for me to remember the year, but the rest of it sucked almost as bad.

 

OK. I had to go dredge it up:

http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/miami-dolphins/draft/2001

So I guess it wouldn't be totally worse than 2013 because of Chris Chambers. But look at the list of coulda beens at 26 and ugh!

 

The worst part of 2001 was the repeated failure to bring in a real QB to replace Fiedler, who belonged on the bench as our backup after his placeholder season of 2000. They whiffed on trading for Trent Green, who went on to be a Pro Bowler with the Chiefs. They whiffed on trading for Matt Hasslebeck, who went on to be the Seahawks starter for the next decade. They whiffed on signing Brad Johnson as a free agent, who went on to be the Bucs starter for four seasons, including their Super Bowl run. And apparently, they had opprotunities to talk to Troy Aikman about coming out of retirement to join the club.

Instead, they chose not to upgrade the position, and had subjectively one of the least talented starters in the entire league yet again, which combined with Wanny's poor coaching, turned what could and should have been one of the best runs in team history into a team that slowly fell apart and disapointed every season until they imploded in 2004.

I once went through game by game, and found that between 2000-2003, there were seven games where the Fins led at halftime, failed to score a TD on offense in the second half, and went on to lose the game. Its almost criminal to think that the team had the chance to make so much out of those years and failed to do so.

 

Have to correct myself. 2001 we missed on Brees and Reggie Wayne, not Boldin. Boldin was 2003 when he was selected 52. We picked Eddie Moore instead. Those years blur together in a haze of ineptitude and enforced mediocrity.

 

Did you see who replaced them? Tell me who sucked, again.

 

Oh jeez. I had just forgotten how awful some of these years were. I'm still trying to figure out how we had Vontae Davis and Sean Smith and got rid of them both. I mean they were the next Surtain and Madison for us. We've been hunting for a CB worth a darn since then (did enjoy Grimes for a couple years).

 

We've made a lot of bad moves over the years, but letting both of them go was the right choice. Davis was tailspinning in Miami, and we were able to get a second rounder for him, and I don't care how good Smith has played anywhere else, he wasn't good while he was here. Often times, players need a chance of scenery to get better, and if they don't move on, they won't progress.

 

Yeah I guess. Man am I glad those bad years are hopefully behind us. Since Dan retired until last year was something pretty bad. Loved every football Sunday amongst them but hot damn we were pretty bad. With that said, I've never faltered on my team. 37 years and counting as a die hard Phins fan.

 

There's a point where you hav to ask whether the lack of development is due to the coach or the player.

I know that you will never get a coach that can get through to and improve 100% of players, Shula and Belichek have had their share of whiffs over tne years. But I'd rather have kept Davis and Smith and turfed Philbin instead of what we actually did.