props to Jeff Ireland.
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Well, it's good to get National praise, but doesn't really mean anything until they step onto the field.
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this will probably be one of the few sites who will call us winners
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I'm not going to forecast either's success. If I could forecast the success of a QB, I'd likely not have to be in IT anymore. I'm a fan of EJ and I like Geno too. I hope they have productive careers and I think EJ can do that. I just hope that we eviscerate them each time we play them. Not going to write them off though. Anything can happen with the proper motivation, of which, both players have.
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Geno is the better QB IMO but has no chance whatsoever w/ the team he's going to.Ronnie Bass likes this. -
Against us in particular, if Dion pans out, they're going to have a hard time throwing from a horizontal position.
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He really has to become a prototypical passer and nothing Ive seen from him suggests he can do that.
EJ at least has that talent advantage, and while its lesser in the NFL he can at least present some matchup problems for a defense....though in most years I think both are mid rounders. -
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Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member
Well, the issue I have with the talking heads is that they look at whether the draft addressed all our needs, but I think their description of our needs is different than ours and that is different than our staff... All I've heard today is how bad Irish was because of two things...1) he didn't address the OL issues enough and 2) he didn't take a WR after getting rid of Bess. (seems as tho many here had love affairs with Ryan Swope).
It's true they didn't address the OL as diligently as "I" seem to think they should have, but he's got some inside info on a few guys we have on the roster that I don't (Yeatman, JJ, Garner, etc). All I can go on is what we've seen of those guys so far, which isn't much. Is one ready to perform now?? Don't know, but assume they think they know... Additionally, there are still some options in FA with guys like Winston, McKinnie, and possibly Monroe...
As to reciever, I think they've addressed that issue quite effectively....Wallace, Hartline, Gibson, Binns, Matthews, Fuller seems a lot better to me than Hartline, Bess, Binns, Matthews, Fuller and Nanee/CJ85... And Keller, Clay, Sims make a significantly better option than Fasano, Egnew, Clay. How many times will we use more than 3 wide?? Add in what Miller and Gillislie might bring to the passing game and this team has improved it's receiver/playmakers quite a bit over last season...JMORGAN6977, Paul 13, Trowa and 1 other person like this. -
I only visit espn.com a couple times of year. went there last night, and everything is "insider" only. you wonder how much money they make off that crap when the same information is out there for free. all you're paying for is the opinions of Mel Kiper Jr...really?
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Nice, OP. Ireland haters where you at? I'd love to hear more.
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I only speak for myself but it has been a long time since I felt this good about the team, that truly top to bottom, owner through players, the team was on the same page, with one vision, not one person in charge with a bunch of people playing yes men. Ireland actually found a pair and has been his own man, seems IMO to have grown out away from parcells. I love Philbin, quiet confidence. My favorite president of all time was Teddy Roosevelt, he practiced what he preached, I love this quote Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far. Philbin is tough, fair, committed, steadfast but doesnt have to be loud and obtuse. He knows how to deal with people and realizes differences exist. From top to bottom it appears finally to be a cohesive organization.
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Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member
That said, and back OT....I like what Irish has done so far...I hope he doesn't treat the OT position like he did WR position last offseason...time to make a move to at least shore up one side or the other and move on... -
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So often we hear about the adage of drafting the best player available. yet when the draft is over, the grades are handed out based on needs filled. can't have it both ways.. or can you? I think in this draft, we covered both bases the majority of the time. That's a solid draft.
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i kind of hope the national guys forget about the Dolphins...they need to prove they're worth the national hype...I think it started last year and I expect big strides this year. -
It took a season with a QB with upside in a WCO style to convince him to listen to Philbin & Sherman on what he needed.
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We hadn't had any 'good' draft recognition in a long, long time.
Nice to hear this. It's a nice feeling knowing we are going in the right direction.Rocky Raccoon likes this. -
I'd like to see a round up of all the talking heads opinions of who had the best drafts in previous years. I think it would be real interesting to see whether they were actually right or not.
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Todd McGay and Fail Kiper watch the same game film we all do. in no way does that qualify there opinion as more important then ours. In fact its startling that both those talking heads and i have about the same right or wrong percentage and yet they get paid to do it.
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I am not seeing where anyone else is calling us winners so that begs the question where is the big home run knock it out of the ball park move at ?
If I put myself in the media 's shoes I would say Ireland hit a singe to first base and that is it. Now if I look at the filling the holes I would say maybe Jeff hit it to second base . -
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I liked this draft, I think we picked up at least 7 players who make the 53. 7/9 who make the final roster is a pretty good draft IMO, if that is indeed the case.
Dion Jordan, Jamar Taylor and Dallas Thomas are gimmes to make the team and contribute right from the start... Sims, Gillislee and Sturgis will most likely make the team, with Sturgis taking the starting role from Carpenter and the other two having some playing time their first year. Jenkins has a strong possibility to make the final cut if he can do well in special teams. The only two I'm not sold on yet are Will Davis and Don Jones, but based on our current CB situation, I think both have strong chances to make the team as well.
So, essentially, we might have a draft where all 9 picks make the final 53, with three potential starters (Sturgis, Taylor and Thomas), three key contributors (Jordan, Sims, Gillislee) and three special teams contributors and depth/situational players (Davis, Jenkins and Jones).
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