We had a head coach at odds with a GM.. And it ended ugly. That was Sparano.
We have a head coach seemingly at odds with a GM. It seems to be ending ugly. This is Philbin.
In both cases the GM who couldn't get along with those coaches was Jeff Ireland.
At what point does it become obvious there's a common denominator?
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When the Dolphins had a crisis on the offensive line, the coaching staff refused to turn to the front office's 3rd round pick and decided instead they need a practice squad player promoted.
When the Dolphins had injuries at corner, they refused to turn to the front office's 2nd and 3rd round picks and turned instead to a practice squad safety from the 49ers that had only just arrived with the team earlier in the week.
Then you have the non-use of Dion Jordan, the friction with Mike Wallace, etc.
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Looks like you guys are gonna have to come up with some new theories bc none of your dogs seem to be hunting.2socks likes this. -
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Apparently, it will never become obvious.
There is one consistent link between the last six years of disappointing Dolphins football. It's not John Denney or Brandon Fields.ASOT likes this. -
WOOHOO! Mediocrity for all!
**** am I glad it's hockey season so I can forget I love this ****ty franchise.ASOT likes this. -
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It's pretty obvious that we've been mediocre for quite some time with this structure in place, with this coaching staff, and a previous one. -
It's clear that many of them just throw **** against the wall looking for hits so why wouldn't anyone be extremely skeptical of what they're selling today? -
Look, when there is a pattern of someone with a reputation for not being likeable or pleasant to work with you have to look at it.
Ireland has a history of issues that indicate he is not all that personable or liked:
- Rumors Harbaugh soured on us because of Ireland
- Irelands whore question and calling a fan an a-hole
- Sparano and Ireland's falling out (would anyone try to claim they had a warm relationship at the end? Or even one of mutual respect?)
- rumors that NFL executives and owners can't believe Ireland is still employed (when you like and respect someone you don't hold that stance)
- former players, some not so credible like Channing Crowder, professing hatred for Ireland and his approach
- a sense from certain agents that Ireland is a douche (see the agent who claimed Ireland said Martin needed to punch Incognito)
- Persistent reports of a backroom rift between Aponte and Ireland with Philbin siding with (and hugging?) Dawn Aponte
- Reports of strong discussions between Ireland and Philbin where Philbin insisted Jon Martin could not play football and Ireland pushed for Philbin to start him
I mean, if there's smoke there's fire. When there is a cloud of volcanic ash that circles the globe there is definitely a lot of fire.
Now, in relationship coaching when you notice a person has a pattern of not get along with their partners (in this case the Head Coaches) then you focus on that person needing to look at how they are causing these problems.
Ireland is the common denominator in not getting along with two very different personalities of head coach now. Ireland does not seem to get along with the hard nosed front office personality of Dawn Aponte either Ireland has a history that makes one question just who he CAN work well with.
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Then, when you consider the GM didn't have a good relationship with the prior Head Coach either, you begin to ask yourself where the blame lies.ASOT likes this. -
Ireland has no moves left, as I see it. He has painted himself into a corner that is inescapable.
Ross: "So Jeff, you're saying the coaches are at fault?"
Jeff: "Yes!"
Ross: "But Jeff, you helped with the coaching search.. and other coaches hired during your tenure have had way more success… look at Chip Kelly, Bruce Arians, Chuck Magano, Marc Trestman, Andy Reid, Jeff Fisher… I mean, as a GM you failed in getting us the best coach.."
Jeff: "Well… I wouldn't say I picked a worse coach than those…"
Ross: "Then explain why we are underperforming compared to them?"
Jeff: "Well, they had better players sir"
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Whether Jeff says that he whiffed on better coaches for our talented roster and that was his mistake, or that he helped make the right coaching choice but the roster is not as good as what those other coaches have and his mistake was not getting good enough players… I just don't see any room left to wiggle for Jeff.
Arguing that the new staff needed different players for the new scheme worked for the past two off seasons.. but now we have a lot of Free Agents and draft picks on this team and still we are dead in the water.
I think the tribe speaks and Jeff's flame is finally extinguished. If he survives, then he is the ultimate survivor champion.ASOT likes this. -
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My prediction is Ross will not fire Ireland or Philbin, but there may be some changes in the assistant coaching ranks.
This will be a mistake and the Dolphins will continue to fall behind the Jets, Bills, and Patriots in 2014. After finishing next year 5-11 or 6-10, Ross will realize too late that he was wrong in not blowing up this team after the 2013 season by getting rid of Philbin and Irland.
The rebuilding process will start with a new GM and a new head coach after the 2014 season and it will take at least three more years before the Dolphins are a legitimate playoff contender.
So right now I figure not much will change with Ross as this teams owner and we are probably looking at 2017 as the year the Dolphins might finally make the playoffs. I hope I am wrong, but I have zero confidence Ross will make the right decisions this year in regards to getting rid of the present GM and HC and hiring the right men to turn this team around.ASOT likes this. -
Weird question… but does Vegas post odds on these sorts of firings/hirings?
They seem to be in-the-know more that we fans are.
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