Pagan better get the tissues out.

 

WOW:up:

 

The dad was in The Wire...best TV show

It's 4 minutes long...where did they play it?

 

I posted this when it first came out.

Awesome commercial.

 

Being in the ad business, this was a very well done commercial.

But I hope you all understand it wasn't made to make a point or anything noble, it was made to specifically tug at your heart strings to make you want a car. If times were different, they'd have made an anti-war commercial. It is no more patriotic than Toby Keith.

 

LOL :lol:

Toby Keith SUCKS!

 

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He does suck though.

I don't see how more people aren't offended by his "patriotism" merely to sell albums. He is the country music equivalent of a snake oil salesman. All show and no substance, and will co-opt anything to make a buck.

Also no surprise that he's a Ford spokesman.

Ford makes a great car, but this type of advertising to me is shameful.

 

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Soooooooooooo, you're squarely in the, "Salute the Flag For Cash" category then?

 

About as much as you're in the "Gotta Piss On Everyone's Parade" category. :wink2:

 

You know, just when I think you've turned the corner, you come up with something like this.

For the record, I HATE Country Music... I loathe it.... My wife, she loves it, lives it..and thats fine.

She made me sit through a CD that was all about being American. Some great thought behind that......if you cant see through that I am truely sorry. I have no problem that the man makes money cause he helps thousands across the Country feel proud about being American.... I have no problem with Ford doing the same thing. Like it or not, Ford is about as American as it comes. Nothing you can say or do or twist will change that.

Guess what. The Dolphins are also in it to make money my friend. Does that make them any less important, American or less fond in your heart? Just askin.....

 

You misunderstand.

I don't care if he makes money. I care that he capitalizes on his "patriotism" to make a buck. Lee Greenwood (right?) wrote God Bless The USA and makes plenty of money off of it, but that seemed to come from genuine patriotism, and all power to him. Toby's crap, seems more of I can make a lot of money with a patriotic song, cause the people will love it.

Its the difference between real artists and pop artists. Does that make sense?

 

i had not seen that commercial, thankyou for posting it. thats one commercial that didn't get the sound turned down.

 

I prefer to think of it as, "Put My **** In Everyone's Birthday Cake"...but yeah.

 

I like that one better! :lol:

 

I don't necessarily have an axe to grind with you Finascious. In fact, I hope I don't offend you with this post. But with all due respect sir, I completely disagree with your comment above. Furthermore, I believe you are either terribly misinformed, or just plain ignorant on who Toby Keith, is and what motivates him. Toby Keith is patriotic not to make money, but because that's who he is. If you don't believe me, I suggest you read up on him. This is just one link with a short bio on him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toby_Keith

His father was a soldier who was injured in action, and he obviously had a big influence on Toby when we was growing up. "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue (An Angry American)" was written by Toby and dedicated to his father shortly after he died, and in the wake of 911.

Furthermore, Toby routinely visits and performs for the troops (usually putting himself in harms way to do so) because he wants to show his support to all the young men and women in the armed forces that are putting their lives on the line for all of us each and every day. Not to make a quick buck.

Look, you don't have to like Toby Keith's music. You don't have to even like who he is. That's cool. But, I would suggest to you that you at least give the man the benefit of the doubt before making accusations about what motivates him, or calling his love for his country into question. As for him promoting himself (and Ford), and making money at it, I just don't see anything wrong with that. How is that any different from anyone else that is in the entertainment industry?

As for the video and your remark above, I also respectfully beg to differ with you sir. Make no mistake, I have no doubt Ford is trying to promote their cars. But, I do believe it is a tribute to the fine men and women of the military, as indicated by the closing remarks at the end of the video. And, I salute them for it. It's just unfortunate that we'll never see it on TV. Today's ultra liberal mainstream media simply wouldn't allow that.

G

 

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Plus Rep and God Bless you G

 

Not offended at all.:up:

This is not proof of his patriotism. My dad was a mechanic and I've real no appreciation for cars. The way and times when he releases his "patriotiuc" songs tell me a different story.

Also, the link says he didn't want to release the song, but yet he did, as the lead single no less to a new album. That is absolutely, co-opting patriotism to make a buck. Its textbook in fact.

Which from the soldier's perspective, is admirable. However, it also clever marketing.

Why should I give him the benefit of the doubt? I'm not the one making a mint exploiting everything from 9-11 to Iraq.

Again, I'm not begrudging Ford or Toby from making money. I'm really not. I'm upset and find it shameful that they would exploit patriotism to make money, especially during times of war. You're ok with it, that's fine. I don't understand it, but its your right.

 

Fair enough Finascious. I reckon we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this matter. Which, is OK. In fact, it's one of many things that makes this country the greatest. Hopefully we can both agree on that.

Peace...

Oh, and thanks for the props azfinfanmang. Appreciate it brother. :up:

 

i kinda feel the way Finacious does on the subject. And I'm a verteran.

 

There is more than just patriotism to this commercial. It's also very much about one generation handing something down to the other. The kid could have just as easily come home from college. The generational thing is also illustrated with his dad being a soldier too. Yes patriotic but not exclusively. Dads passing down a car to the next generation is a common and old theme. The soldier aspect adds to the atmosphere and familiarity of the the story based on current events. Fiction often uses current headlines to paint the background for it's picture.

Of course they are trying to sell their product. Kind of needed to stay in business. But they are doing it in a nice way and by saying our product is worth enough that a father would pass it on to his son including patriotic fathers and sons. I liked this ad. It reminded me of all I have learned from my father more than it made me think of the war or American values. I am not saying it isn't trying to hit the patriotic demographic. I just think that there is more to it than that.

 

One thing though.

The dad didn't pass anything down. He bought him a new car and kept the vintage for himself.:lol:

 

Um....tradition? :wink2:

 

I'd have kept that vintage Mustang if I was him, too!

I think everybody here not named Pagan :tongue2: would agree that it was completely underwhelming to go from a shot of that sweet vintage Mustang to the garage opening up to that brand new one... I chuckled, actually.

 

I loves me the old cars bro, as much as anyone else. Used to own a worked '73 'Cuda.

But the bottom line is this...

The newer ones are better built, handle better, and are faster. Dem's just the facts. :D

 

OOOOHHHHH! :hi5:
'70-'74 'Cuda is my DREAM CAR! Why did you get rid of it?!

That may well be, but those '70s muscle cars just look SO bad-***!

 

I didn't get rid of it. Some drunk in a pickup truck did that for me as he was leaving a bar about 2 am on a Saturday night.

Where I was living at the time, the driveway was REALLY long and tree lined. This asshat thought it was a street, turned into it and gunned his redneck mobile...straight into the front of my 'Cuda.

Someone actually offered me decent money for the wreck, and my beloved 'Cuda now rests on my wife's finger as a 10 year Anniversary ring.

R.I.P. Feroshus. (that was her plate)

 

Damn, that is a true bummer, man. :sad:

I hope the car gods are STILL punishing that drunken ******...

 

if by "american as they come" you meen "lets make it on the cheap and then send them a 300 page recall book so we can fix it right" then yes ford is as american as they come. unfortunately "american as they come" died out along time ago back when we built things with pride to last and patriotism ment something in this country.

 

It's true the new Mustangs are mechancally better than the classics but I still like the look of the late 60's mustangs more than the current. The new ones look good but the 69 and 70 Mustang mach 1 was my dream car for many years and still is to a degree.

If I had been the dad in that story I'd keep the vintage too. :yes:

 

And you really need to come out of the dark ages and stop just repeating what people have been saying in the past.

Ford's quality is equal to or better than Toyota and Honda right now. I've put 34K HARD miles on my Mustang, and there isn't even a squeak in the body yet.

Some links for ya:

Ford dominates J.D. Power and Associates 2007 Initial Quality Study

Ford Surpasses Honda In Initial Quality and Ties Toyota

Ford’s Initial Quality As Good As Toyonda’s

Do some research instead of just believing what people tell you.

 

Am I to believe that FinD's agency gives their advertisment away, and he works there for no compensation out the goodness of his heart?

 

Yes, absolutely.:pity:

I guess you wouldn't have a problem with someone exploiting something good and pure to make a buck?

 

You would have us believe that Toby Keith wrote a song in honor of his father, that he loved and respected so he could make a fast buck?:no:

 

Yup.

 

:no:

 

I have had my Mercury Mountaineer for almost 6 years and havent had a SINGLE problem with it. Yet my best friend has a Nissan Titan and it has had nothing but problems. Gotta love bull**** generalizations based on bull****.

 

No you're right, no one's ever exploited personal things before.