1. yoge New Member

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    Who is at fault here?
     
  2. texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Everyone.
     
  3. firedan Well-Known Member

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    It's my fault.
    Mostly for thinking they would improve.
     
  4. 2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Im a Dolphin fan and I was shocked at how obvious it was that the Ref's were trying to help make it competitive
     
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  5. Tannephins Banned

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    Tannehill needs to hit that open pass to Jennings.
     
  6. DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The biggest issue is Lazor's playbook and his tendency to call bad passing plays. He calls too many screens and short passes which winds up bringing the defense up which leads to less success when he calls a run and an increased number of successful blitzes. I'd also like to see more inside runs. Everything is to the outside and most of them get blown up.

    This is just not a well coordinated offense. That to me is the biggest thing. After that I'd say the players are not talented, they don't appear to fully understand how to be successful, and they don't look very motivated. All of that is highlighted by the lack of originality and good sense in the play-calling though.

    There are a lot of issues but Bill Lazor just failed in his duties to develop something here.
     
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  7. DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yes! That was my first thought. Tannehill just really sucks on certain routes. I'm going to say it. He's a good young QB and is very tough but man, he is downright awful on certain throws.

    Why Lazor continuously calls on some of those throws though is beyond me.
     
  8. NyPhinfan Season Ticket Holder

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    That is the most infuriating part. Lazor refuses....REFUSES to run the ball near the goaline and keeps running plays that Tannehill cant make. Those fades to the endzone are not even close
     
  9. mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    The other problem is that teams know we can't run the football. We missed some throws down there but at the end of the day, play action passing can open up things down on the goal line but teams aren't going to buy that.

    Oh, and it would be nice if our OL could at least slow down blitzers.
     
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  10. muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    dion sims fault.
     
  11. brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Philbin will blame Devante Parker, and he will likely be inactive the next 3 weeks as a result.
     
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  12. CitizenSnips hmm.

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    To be fair, and I preface this by saying we overall suck and it doesn't matter, but the penalty on devante was dumb. Jarvis still scores there without the contact that devante gave. It was unneeded and cost us 7.
     
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  13. dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    tannehill and play calling.. not just that drive but the 2 drives against bills game. Like 0-20 goal to goal on passes. no slants? No curls?
     
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  14. jcs92593 Banned

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    LOL!! Tannehill????

    OK.
     
  15. resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I put that dude on ignore a long, long time ago, jcs, mostly due to his ignorant stance on Tannehill.
     
  16. Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    He can't routinely make those throws you're alluding to.

    I keep beating this drum but he's a comeback/curl guy ..... that's it. He's not a finesse passer.
     
  17. 2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Takes 2
     
  18. dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    0-20 on pass plays there jcs? Who do you think is actually throwing the football????
     
  19. Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Takes two for what exactly?
     
  20. Phins_Fan_87 Phins and Heat fan Club Member

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    fire everyone, until then continue sucking.
     
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  21. jcs92593 Banned

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    I don't know how lol.
     
  22. jcs92593 Banned

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    To tango, and make a baby for sure.
     
  23. dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    so the QB completes zero of 20 passes and it is everyone else's fault, that is hilarious!!!
     
  24. Phins_Fan_87 Phins and Heat fan Club Member

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    the oline has nothing to do with it, good point.
     
  25. jcs92593 Banned

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    You don't understand a lot about football, do you?
     
  26. resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Click their name, then view profile. The option to put on ignore is in there.
     
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  27. adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    First four reasons are everyone on the offensive line not named pouncey. Or tannenbaum for allowing us to go into the season with this Swiss cheese line
     
  28. jcs92593 Banned

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    Done! Thanks!

    My first ignore!
     
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  29. resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yep. But there are those who will ignore everything, and place all the blame on Tannehill. Everything starts with the oline. If they can't block, good luck running or passing.
     
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  30. jcs92593 Banned

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    I'm sorry, but it's not rocket science. Anybody with the most basic level of football knowledge knows games are won in the trenches. No QB can complete passes on their backs. How hard is this for them to comprehend???
     
  31. CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Tannehill didn't do anything when he did have time besides errant passes and poor decisions.


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  32. jcs92593 Banned

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    So, you missed the game huh?

    When he had time he made some great throws.

    Reading box scores doesn't tell the story.
     
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  33. CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    I watched the game.
     
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  34. resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I didn't watch the game, Cash. I dvr'd it, then deleted it, without watching, when I got home just now, after reading through the GameDay thread when I was out and about.

    That being said, every QB has a bad game. My issue is, Tannehill rarely has great games, due in large part to always having to overcome ****ty oline play. Tannehill absolutely has to play lights out football, every freaking game, for the Dolphins to have a chance.
     
  35. jcs92593 Banned

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    Did you wear your glasses??

    You saw something totally different than the rest of the world.
     
  36. CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    How many times are we going to say, "It's just one game?"
     
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  37. jcs92593 Banned

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    Till Coyle, Philbin and Lazor are fired.

    Play calling, line play and defense were putrid.

    But blame the QB, it's easier.
     
  38. resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Tannehill doesn't often have "bad games." I think his lowest rating last season was a 70. He'll have a poor half, or some poor throws. It's a problem when your QB is being asked to throw 30+ times, with an oline that couldn't block a D III defensive line, and zero hope of a run game to keep the defense honest. Like I said, Tannehill has to play at a HoF level every game just to give the Dolphins a chance.

    It's disgusting to expect that of any QB, and ridiculous to hold it against any QB who can't maintain that level of play every, single game.
     
  39. Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    This team is a mess from Tannehill to Suh...you will NOT catch me defending a GD one of them!

    Why? Because they don't deserve it.

    We we have a BAD OL, a lot of teams do....biggest difference? Most OC's find ways to counter it to a degrees...Ryan hasn't done very much either so he is part of the problem. Why isn't he making calls at the LOS?? Is he not allowed? Is he bad at it? Wtf is going on?
     
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  40. DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Dude, show some respect, alright? People here have been evaluating Ryan Tannehill for a long time. He's now played 52 games in the NFL. That's not a small sample size. He's disappointed people a lot over that time and there has been serious debate (with good arguments on both sides) as to what he brings and what he doesn't.

    Please don't join the forum and then take a stance that you're going to be a pest to everyone that is dissatisfied with Tannehill's performance. The truth is, he had chances today and in those chances he didn't look very good. While a running game and some consistent pass protection would certainly help, Tannehill often contributes to the problem in his own ways.

    Again, we've seen it for 52 games. Keep that in mind.
     
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