If I was to get a new jersey, it would be 21. I think he will be fine, and mark my words will make the pro bowl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYdfBxOrQ90
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He hasn't lived up to his potential and has been mouthy/had work ethic problems. That and most of this board has bafflingly divided itself into two partisan gangs either supporting Sean Smith or Vontae Davis and have dumb**** clashes whenever one or the other is brought up, despite them both basically being in the same boat.
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Iv seen enough from Vontae to believe that he is truly elite. Im glad he got exposed on HK episode 1 and responded by literally body slamming Steve Smith on his head.
Immature, but I really think that he has what it takes to be all pro. I think its funny that last seasons slow start and 90 seconds on HK and ppl are ready to dump him and move on. -
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MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member
He's not afraid to attack the los in run support and he does have IMO innate cover skills. His only problem is mental maturity. Why the heck does he come to camp not in prime physical condition? He should have been working out all off season like a mad man. For him to be getting gassed in those early passing drills, such as was featured on HK #1, that is really inexcusable.
I think one reason the coaches are playing him so many snaps, is to help play him into shape. I'd estimate he played more snaps against the Panthers than any of the DBs.DHPVW, dolfan32323, ToddPhin and 1 other person like this. -
Fan of Patrick Cobbs?....or THE Patrick Cobbs? Hmmm
PS: I like Vontae but Steve Smith slammed Vontae on HIS head. Not vice versa. -
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I think vontate is our best player on D but hes a jackass sadly dunno if his talent will ever pan out
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Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member
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I think the hate is because in Hard Knocks he's coming across as a selfish, self-entitled, spoiled brat.
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Yet Vonte gets the penalty? Freaking SCABS.
Vonte has been a real solid starter with this team for 2 years. I think it makes the coaching mad that his maturity won't allow him to be the great player he could be.
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I didn't like the call on VD, should have been a foul on both. I do like Steve Smith and those 2 do have a history. VD talked trash last year or the year before, something like that and Steve just ate his breakfast, lunch, dinner and his momma.
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Powerslam debate aside, Vontae Davis was the best corner on the Miami Dolphins against the Panthers that night. Sean Smith had that INT robbed from him, but was pretty average other than that. Unimpressed with Richard Marshall.
I still can't think of why Miami's got Sean Smith predominantly at LCB - Vontae is much better against the run, and I'd argue (when his head's screwed on correctly) is a better player than Smith. I never understood, or ever heard, why Sparano and Mike Nolan flopped them last year. Or why Coyle has done the same this year. -
Vontae is being pushed by this staff to give 110%.
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He can drink all ****ing night and never train at all if he shuts guys down. But when he's getting beaten, it's an issue.
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I agree that with Davis, it all comes down to his maturity or lack of, in this case. He has loads of talent, but he just doesn't play to a high level throughout the game. While he can look like a Pro Bowl player at times, he also can look like one of the worst DB in the NFL on other plays. Hopefully Davis will get his act together this year or I could see this coaching staff wanting to get rid of him after the season.
I would love to see him become one of the top DB's in the NFL, but he has a long way to go and the need for a change of attitude, before he can reach the status of one of the best CB's in the NFL. -
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dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member
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dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member
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I don't really get the hate due to hard knocks. Seems like people are over playing just what's been shown IMO. The usual fandom gone awry.
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There seems to be a pretty severe overreaction to Davis being demoted in favor of Richard Marshall.
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Don't know if I would call it hate,what I've seen is coaches and fans alike trying to make his lack of full time effort get pointed out to him so he has a chance to step up now not game 10. He needs to show up in better shape at the beginning of season that looks apparent.
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Smith was being a dick. He should've got the penalty.xphinfanx likes this. -
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