I'm interested in the 40 times for Hopkins, Allen, Patterson, and also their 10 yd splits.

I predict Wheaton to be at least the 2nd fastest WR, so interested in seeing him run too. Also, hope to see Poyer post some good times so to put to rest any concern over his speed.

 

Pass on Poyer '13

 

I'm interested to see how long it takes Damontre Moore to run the 3 cone drill. lol.
Ansah's everything..... just for the fun of it.

WR
Patterson's 40, 10 split, vertical & broad
Patton's everything
If Marquise Goodwin tops Jacoby Ford's 40
Da'Rick Rogers' 40 & 10 split
Wheaton's 3 cone & shuttle
Swope's 40
Connor Vernon's everything
Corey Fuller's 40, cone, and shuttle
Chris Harper's 40 & 10 split

RB
Eddie Lacy's everthing
Giovani Bernard's 40 & 10 split
Andre Ellington's 40
DJ Harper's everything

TE
Vance McDonald's 40, 10 split, vertical
Ertz's 10 split, 3 cone, & shuttle
Eifert's 40 & bench
Chris Gragg's everything
Joseph Fauria & Zach Sudfeld's everything

hybrid OLB
Jarvis Jones & Chase Thomas: vertical, broad, bench, 10 split (cone & shuttle too I guess)

QB
Mike Glennon's bench. just for the fun of it.

 

Barry, why do you care about Ansah's ten yard split? To me, that's totally immaterial. When there's a Combine to measure a defensive end's ability to get to the QB, then hook me up. Ansah will rock into the Mike Mamula territory.

 

Come on guys! How can you all make these lists of players and leave off the most important one? You all know damn well the #1 reason you will be watching the Combine is for Rich Eisen's time in the 40 :pity:

 

I actually thought that Ansah's 1st step looked better at the Senior Bowl- with that wide stance and those long legs he reminded me a bit of Too Tall Jones and LC Greenwood. The problem is, on top of a weak first step, he shows again and again an inability to get to the QB until a play is elongated to the point that he can start laterally chasing the QB. In other words, he can't effectively disengage from OT's to get to a pocket passing QB. And if he can't do that against BYUs competition- good luck in the NFL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-JxQlaxBHU

Take a look at 3:12 here against Boise St.- this is what drives me nuts. Ansah engages the LT, gets nowhere, basically gives up and you can see him planning his jump as he tries to bat down the ball. Nice touch, but that's not the meat of the dish- the meat is supposed to be actually beating the OT and getting to the QB in the pocket. For all that Ansah potentially has to offer, get used to that clip because you're going to see a lot of that kind of play from him in the NFL. Unless a play breaks down and he can use his speed to track QBs laterally, he's inept and clueless as a pass rusher. That may sound harsh, but that's what it is. It's like he has no freaking clue how to beat an OT to get to a QB in the pocket, and that's a huge problem.

After a couple of years of football he should know better and have better skills in that regard- look at Menelik Watson- very similar situation as per a foreigner new to the game with awesome physical skills, but he stonewalls DEs, often blocks more than one player during a play with great awareness and reflexes and is great at blocking downfield past the LOS. Watson imo shows great basic, fundamental skill as well as great reflexes, 2nd level blocking, etc goodies. Power run blocking, pass pro, everything basic he does great, plus the other stuff. Ansah- he offers the goodies but is massively fundamentally flawed as a basic, get to the QB in the pocket pass rusher- he gives you wine but denies you water, metaphorically speaking. Good luck with that in our division against Tom Brady, Mark Sanchez and Ryan Fitzpatrick.

I've seen quite a bit of this "can't disengage" argument labeled at Damontre Moore- if Ansah had the basic pass rushing ability of Moore then maybe he would be worth a top 10 pick- he doesn't. Moore has issues as per getting stonewalled, but not even close to those of Ansah's. I posted the Alabama footage of Ansah where he got dominated, but generally speaking he is a good DE and edge rusher, imo. And as to that earlier 3 cone comment I saw in this thread- puhlease.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZlyDKSEgWU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxj59C-Xzag

Sean Porter at OLB- his stock has suffered imo because his role was changed in 2012 to less of the attack player that he was in 2011- he can get to the QB, had 10 sacks or so in 2011. I'd love to get him in the 3rd rd, he may not and probably should not be available in the 3rd rd. Put him behind Odrick on the left side and you have some lighting to go with the thunder- if you want a more attacking and athletic defense, imagine Misi in the middle flanked by Porter and Ogletree- getting both Ogletree and Porter is a legitimate possibiity, and if you want to track the Russell Wilsons of the world having fast, active OLBs like Porter and Ogletree in a 4/3 with Wake and Odrick at base DEs wouldn't be such a bad way to go. Porter and Ogletree imo both have outstanding movement skills, like big Safeties, and we sure could use some of that. YOu want to improve this defense? Imagine:

1. Ogletree
2. Elam
2. Steadman Bailey
3. Sean Porter
3. Tank Carridine
4. Jordan Reed
5. Marques Wilson
6.
7. Brandon McGee

Combine that with Mike Wallace or Jennings in FA, with maybe an OL and another CB and you're off and running. I think that Ireland will indeed go for playmakers this year- the plan was to build inside out, this is the year for the attack players, not the bigs

 

Combine...happy happy happy..I'm gonna DVR that bad boy for a week just in case we need to go back.

Eifert vrs Ertz..

Cordarelle and how natural his hands are.

I see some mocks that have Bernard in the late first early 2nd, not buyin his speed, and if he doesn't have it, he drops.

Eddie lacy, everything, want his *** on my team.

Chris Harper because of an inside source.

Close ups of the genetics of all the players we might have interest in.

Dion Jordan's fluidity for his size should be draw dropping..

Sheldon Richardson cementing himself as a top 10 player, maybe sooner...which sucks...that dude will run all day.

All the receivers..

Escobar in case we don't get Eifert..wanna see his size and speed on display.

I could go on and on..I think the combine is very important part of the evaluation process..

Matt millens on record saying he could care less...lol

 

I just can't take Ogletree that high when I don't think he can hold up in the middle on the next level.

 

I'm going to keep harping on this until I die but the big problem with the 10 yard split is it is the measurement that is THE most sensitive to measurement error.

And technique error, for that matter. I really wish they'd switch formats to having the player react to a gun.

 

Wouldn't that create a greater discrepancy for players who don't get the same start?

 

Yes but that discrepancy would translate in a football sense.

 

....said you're 2 college sweethearts.














:p

 

I can see where you could believe this, if you wanna resort to logic and all.

I'd like to see them at least wear a darn helmet.

 

I'm busted, I want to see *** in underwear.

 

I'm actually surprised that they do not have a way to measure a players speed based on when a player starts. Basically, a motion sensor timer that starts when motion is first initiated. I think it would be a lot more accurately than a player try to "guesstimate" when a guy is going to say "go."

 

So what do they do between tomorrow and saturday? lol

 

Kennan Allen will not participate at the combine...pcl injury has not healed.