2022 Dolphins Staff Hires and Fires

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

That's the rumor.

We also don't know if Boyer was just doing what Flores wanted him to do and then got upset with him for doing what he wanted to do, and then scapegoated him by deciding to do it himself.

This is something Flores was also rumored to do.

That’s what you saw on the field + Flores calling plays on D and Omar Kelly reporting it. Like I said I don’t think he‘s a bum but we’ll see how the D looks next year and I‘m interested to see how the staff looks in the end.

"JJ_79 wrote:

That’s what you saw on the field + Flores calling plays on D and Omar Kelly reporting it. Like I said I don’t think he‘s a bum but we’ll see how the D looks next year and I‘m interested to see how the staff looks in the end.

I don't really believe Omar either. People who are reporting to him have their agenda. We also saw Byron Jones and Xavian Howard get healthy when the defense turned around, which also allows more aggressive playcalling.

That's when X and Byron got healthy and we started playing bums instead of elite teams.

"Fireland wrote:

Many of those same reports say Grier isn't power hungry and gave Flores whatever he wanted. So why pick and choose what we believe?

Blame him in general yes but you guys will make up anything and decide its fact like Grier making Flores start Tua even though that is not likely. Grier has done enough actual wrong things to deserve to go without having to invent any.

Flores said Boyer was calling the plays. They obviously made changes and Flores being gone makes regression a very serious possibility but Boyer wasn't sitting around playing Fortnite for 2 months. Flores did not "take over"

The only reporter that is saying Flores took over play calling is Omar Kelly who also said he didn't.

Reports about Grier not being power hungry and giving Flores whatever he wanted are not credible and illogical. Probably put out there by Grier himself to cover his own ass. Grier is the GM, not Flores, and Grier has final say over everything. Flores would not have asked for more power over player personnel if Grier was actually giving him everything he wanted.

I don't understand how some of you can continue to give Grier a pass for all the disfunction and terrible personell decisions. He has been in charge since 2016 folks, and in a position of great influence since 2007. Time to stop blaming everybody else but him.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

I don't really believe Omar either. People who are reporting to him have their agenda. We also saw Byron Jones and Xavian Howard get healthy when the defense turned around, which also allows more aggressive playcalling.

And Davis. Him getting healthy and back in the swing was huge for the run D.

"JJ_79 wrote:

Flores got more involved and called plays and things turned around, no?

I am going to repost soming from a different thread. Sorry if you see it twice. This was from directly after the Ravens game:

I think it is fair to question Omar's sources. There were multiple direct quotes from Flores, and players during the season stating that Boyer was calling plays at the time. Now there are "sources" saying he didn't. Most likely, as MM said he wants going forward, it was always a collaborative effort. Then who knows with the Flores Dolphins? We still don't really know who called plays on O. Such a weird thing to have so much secrecy and confusion about.

"hitman8 wrote:

Reports about Grier not being power hungry and giving Flores whatever he wanted are not credible and illogical. Probably put out there by Grier himself to cover his own ***. Grier is the GM, not Flores, and Grier has final say over everything. Flores would not have asked for more power over player personnel if Grier was actually giving him everything he wanted.

I don't understand how some of you can continue to give Grier a pass for all the disfunction and terrible personell decisions. He has been in charge since 2016 folks, and in a position of great influence since 2007. Time to stop blaming everybody else but him.

Its not giving him a pass to say you don't know need to put on tinfoil hat over everything. Focus on what we know to be true and there is still plenty of Grier mistakes to be had.

"Galant wrote:

#Dolphins coaching news aplenty!

- New OL coach
- 3rd known offensive coordinator candidate https://t.co/C15ifJHgLg

— The Phinsider (@thephinsider) February 12, 2022

After a quick study, I really like this guy. He's turned around 4 or 5 college line programs, plus he's worked for the Redskins and one other NFL team. About a dozen years coaching, plus 2 years as a college player. At face value, it feels like a good hire. Four of his OL starters last year were all-division.

No idea why we haven't poached top college line coaches the past few seasons- I'm sure this guy is coming very affordably and probably an instant upgrade. Hopefully he can "save" 2 or 3 of our current starters.

"KeyFin wrote:

After a quick study, I really like this guy. He's turned around 4 or 5 college line programs, plus he's worked for the Redskins and one other NFL team. About a dozen years coaching, plus 2 years as a college player. At face value, it feels like a good hire. Four of his OL starters last year were all-division.

No idea why we haven't poached top college line coaches the past few seasons- I'm sure this guy is coming very affordably and probably an instant upgrade. Hopefully he can "save" 2 or 3 of our current starters.

Yeah, seems like a pretty good coach. Still don't know why it's taken so long to get a good oline coach here other than money and Grier being stingy. But this one looks promising.

I really have tried to distance myself emotionally since the firing of Flores and the hiring of McDaniel. Past firings and hirings, I’ve had been quite upbeat on the incoming staff and excited…only to have my hopes crushed yet again. With that being said…

Im cautiously optimistic with what I’ve seen and researched since McDaniel’s hiring. It appears that he is a coach that is committed to the running game, something I’ve advocated for a number of years. The offense has GOT to be balanced. Running the ball only 10 times a game while throwing it 40-50 times is a recipe for failure.

This hire of Applebaum I find cautiously optimistic as well. It’s no secret how much I bang the drum of the absolute utter importance of the offensive line and it’s intriguing to me that BC’s offensive line ranked 2nd in the NCAA last season. What will that translate into at the pro level? We’ll see but it does show me McDaniel shares my philosophy of a stout OL and is committed to it.

Maintaining our current defensive staff is going to be interesting. We’ll find out whether or not Flores/Boyer worked together in tandem and our defense continues to play great…or if the defense folds like a cheap suit…in which case, losing Flores seriously hurt the team defensively.

Of course there is the “RG” factor…as in Stephen Ross and Chris Grier. Seems to me those two have the incredible ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

The whole energy of this team is about to change. I think the youth is going to respond better to it than the vets. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

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Will be interesting to see how they address the actual players on the OL, since the coaching staff is heavily involved with OL and the running game as a whole. Who, if any, will fit their system and/or just be salvageable. Do we prioritize veterans, and if so, who? Or will we wait until the draft to try and snag 2-3 guys and plug them in as starters.

Frankly, the whole offensive makeover will be interesting to see. Will we try and get Giesicki back, and at what price? Do we keep or trade Parker? What upgrades to the WR corps will we make, the RB group, the OL? I can see most of our resources being spent on that side of the ball.

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Also, this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id=WGJFSTNiWO8;t=1326

"OwesOwn614 wrote:

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Yeah well, the great improvement in the chargers oline was largely due to them drafting Slater, and signing linsley, Feiler and Aboushi. With Grier in charge of drafting and signing free agents I don't think we will see the same turnaround in oline play. Grier is absolutely the worst GM in the leugue at recognizing oline talent.

"hitman8 wrote:

Yeah well, the great improvement in the chargers oline was largely due to them drafting Slater, and signing linsley, Feiler and Aboushi. With Grier in charge of drafting and signing free agents I don't think we will see the same turnaround in oline play. Grier is absolutely the worst GM in the leugue at recognizing oline talent.

Well, hopefully Smith and Applebaum will identify quality OL (both FA and college) for Grier to got out and get, so he’s not left to his own devices

"hitman8 wrote:

Yeah well, the great improvement in the chargers oline was largely due to them drafting Slater, and signing linsley, Feiler and Aboushi. With Grier in charge of drafting and signing free agents I don't think we will see the same turnaround in oline play. Grier is absolutely the worst GM in the leugue at recognizing oline talent.

Maybe, but flores didn't have any faith in his offensive coaches why should we? Maybe the new coaches come in a determine a better way to utilize the potential that was identified when they were drafted.

"plc001 wrote:

Maybe, but flores didn't have any faith in his offensive coaches why should we? Maybe the new coaches come in a determine a better way to utilize the potential that was identified when they were drafted.

Coaching can only do so much. You don't suck as much as Jackson has for example, and then all of a sudden become a great lineman. Real players at least show something their first two years regardless of coaching. Jackson and the rest of the oline, other than Hunt, haven't shown squat. Hunt for example has been getting the same coaching as Jackson and the other scrubs on the online, but he has performed much better because has actual talent to play at a high level.
Hunt is the only good oline pick Grier has made in his entire career, other than having Tunsil fall on his lap.

"hitman8 wrote:

Coaching can only do so much. You don't suck as much as Jackson has for example, and then all of a sudden become a great lineman. Real players at least show something their first two years regardless of coaching. Jackson and the rest of the oline, other than Hunt, haven't shown squat. Hunt for example has been getting the same coaching as Jackson and the other scrubs on the online, but he has performed much better because has actual talent to play at a high level.
Hunt is the only good oline pick Grier has made in his entire career, other than having Tunsil fall on his lap.

It could also be that it has not clicked for them with those coaches.

"hitman8 wrote:

Coaching can only do so much. You don't suck as much as Jackson has for example, and then all of a sudden become a great lineman. Real players at least show something their first two years regardless of coaching. Jackson and the rest of the oline, other than Hunt, haven't shown squat. Hunt for example has been getting the same coaching as Jackson and the other scrubs on the online, but he has performed much better because has actual talent to play at a high level.
Hunt is the only good oline pick Grier has made in his entire career, other than having Tunsil fall on his lap.

There are plenty of examples of offensive lineman who turn their career around with a different scheme/coaching.

"hitman8 wrote:

Coaching can only do so much. You don't suck as much as Jackson has for example, and then all of a sudden become a great lineman.

Watching Jackson, his technique is terrible. I'm guessing he was a lot stronger before the bone marrow surgery and he was able to get away with lousy technique on slower, weaker players in college. In the NFL though, it doesn't cut it.

I think coaching can do quite a lot for him and possibly turn around his career, but it's not just physical at this point. He has to master the mental aspects of the game, staying low, shuffling his feet, arm strikes to the defender, etc. It's all technique and repetition, plus mental toughness to execute.

I think Jackson has a chance of being a competent NFL tackle since he has had quite a few great snaps. But he'll never be consistent if the lazy shortcuts aren't coached out of him. Same problem for Eichenberg really, his technique is better (still bad, but better) and he's getting outclassed.