Yeah but with the hurricanes now playing there, we don't get the cool Dolphins logo's in the end zone. Just the generic MIAMI in orange.

Not a big deal but just doesn't look as nice. It is great though that the Marlins have finally left, NOW MAKE US CLOSER TO THE ACTION.

 

How are we supposed to slide into second after a scramble? :shifty:

 

Now the Marlins have a World Class facility and the Dolphins have no infield. Win Win.

 

Yeah, but once they get the Death Penalty that will be over too.:shifty:

 

Except when the Marlins relocate or get contracted.
Then the World Class facility becomes a White Elephant.

 

Instagram is the most unnecessarily overused app ever.

 

True, it's for ugly people because it makes them look better.

 

No, it's not win-win. It would be better to deal with the infield than have no chance to get public money anytime soon because the Marlins poisoned the well.

 

You mad?

 

They aren't leaving...

 

Unless you're in Marlins ownership, I'm not sure why you're tossing out worn internet cliches.

 

I'm not. I am a Marlins fan, though. And I love the stadium.

 

Not in the least.
I don't give 2 craps about the Marlins.

 

OK.
Don't stop believin.

 

I guess enjoy the hope they can somehow wildly overachieve with ownership who doesn't care about performance now that they got theirs? At a certain point I would think dignity and self respect would kick in but hey?

 

If they don't care about on field performance, why did they drop so much money in the off season to field a winner?

You sound like a mix of Norman Braman and Jeff Passan. I suggest you get over it and stop hating. The stadium is built and will be here for a while.

 

I have facts that suggest it will be here for a while.

What do you have that suggests it won't?

 

2/3 are great. One of them sucks. As well as the team. :(

 

What facts are those? A new stadium?
Won't be long til the novelty wares off and people stop going. (Hasn't it kind of started already? Not being sarcastic, I honestly don't know. I just heard Colin Cowherd talking about it the other day.)
Then yet another fires sale will happen (It has already started...*Hanley Ramierez*)
Miami just isn't a baseball town. It's barely a sports town.
It used to be a hardcore Dolphins town, I guess it still is, but even that love affair has waned a bit recently. I guess that's what a decade of suckdom does to fanbase.

 

I love dolfans that hate on marlins fans not showing up, as Greenbay has 70k at a scrimmage and we had 1200.......Guess the dolphins are contracting soon too eh? :lol:

 

Not contracting but.......Los Angeles Dolphins????

 

To buy the loyalty of the very small percentage of people who will show up. Theoretically, there is some **** happy Miami-living, Marlins-attending fans will not eat up greedily. The Marlins haven't found it yet, but I can see why they have some desire and need for plausible deniability after raping and pillaging the county and fan base without even a kiss on the cheek.

I sound like nearly everyone who isnt part of Marlins ownership or a small minority of a minuscule fan base that is close enough to Dade to go to games comfortably but doesn't live in county to deal with the financial ****storm.

I don't have any interest in baseball or live in Dade and I can recognize that I got ****ed over. My football team is going to likely be stuck with an aging facility for a decade plus because all everyone is going to remember is the Marlins scammed everyone for a stadium no one goes to and a team no one cares about

 

Lots of Marlins hate in here.

They're not going anywhere though.

 

Every team out of the playoff hunt is having a similar percentage decrease in attendance.

Trading Hanley Ramirez, a guy who's been no better than average for two full seasons now with 30m+ left on his contract does not constitute a fire sale.

 

In more than one sense.

And it's not Marlins "hate". That suggests there's some sort of rivalry or competition issue. Most of the people who have a problem with the scam the Marlins ran don't care about baseball.

 

The problem isn't some slump, it's that the Marlins got their new stadium that was supposed to super charge attendance and what? They ended up going from near worst to slightly below average? They got their fourth or fifth best year in terms of attendance?

How exactly are the Marlins going to keep their attendance where it is, much less get it to levels that would have justified a new stadium.

 

That post was mostly in response to PSG. I understand why people would be upset with that stadium deal, I don't understand why someone would say they're going to relocate or contract when it's almost literally an impossibility for the next 25 years.

 

I don't know if it was supposed to "super charge" attendance. It was suppose to provide stability and a make the team more money. It did that.

How else does any team increase attendance? They win.

 

You're wrong on all accounts here actually.

There is no fire sale and attendance has been consistent. It has dropped off a little when we started losing, but let's not act like that only happens with the Marlins. If you think they're leaving because of attendance, there are about 15 other MLB teams I can name you who shouldn't have an MLB team, either.

 

To buy loyalty? Hm. Bottom line is they spent money. You can call it whatever you want. They spent money this off season. They wanted to field a winner. You said they could care less about that. You were wrong.

You're basically pissed because the Marlins built a stadium the same way nearly every MLB team has built a stadium the past decade plus. Through public funding.

Get over it. I could care less if you don't like baseball. The Marlins attendance has been fine, and will continue to be fine. People still show up despite the suck the past two months. I don't see any reason they will stop.

 

Baseball? Yawn, nobody cares anymore.

 

Why would they care about winning when the President explicitly says they don't care if no one comes to their games?

I have no problem with a sports team I don't care for getting public money. I wouldn't have a problem with it coming out of my taxes, provided the team actually justified it. I've got problems because the Marlins don't deserve it, they lied and ripped off the public to get their stadium.

I've got a problem because the Marlins will very likely have killed the ability to get public money for Sun Life stadium for a very long time. Let's not even talk about the Dolphins vs. the Marlins, how many years would it take for the Marlins to equal the financial impact of one Miami hosted Super Bowl? Almost certainly longer than the gap between Miami hosted Super Bowls.

It's going to set the record for worst first-year attendance of a new ballpark, and they haven't even been able to hit the levels they hit when they were new in Joe Robbie Stadium.

 

This is because the stadium is very small. Smallest in the MLB. Of course total attendance will be lower if other stadiums hold 15-20 thousand more, or ~35k more in JRS's case.

And as far as the presidents quote, the Miami Today News admitted Samson was misquoted. There's absolutely no proof that ownership doesn't care about winning.

 

Why would he raise payroll from 60 million to 117 million if he didn't care about winning?

I think keeping an entire baseball team in a city is more important than building a team that will always be here a new stadium. The Dolphins will be fine. MLB wants baseball to work in South Florida. You need a team there if you want it to work.

That's not true. Off the top of my head, I remember reading the 1982 Minnesota Twins drew less. Much less. They averaged around 11,000 per game.

We're in line to finish with similar numbers with three teams who opened up stadiums in the 21st Century. The Reds, Pirates and Nationals. The season isn't over, either. We could pass them. If we do not, we will probably fall just a few hundred short of their marks.

 

It was reported their was over 8,000 people in attendance, but I see your point nonetheless.

 

Exactly, I remember watching a preseason game and there was like 1:00 left in the 4th quarter and the game wasn't even close but the stadium still looked like their was about to be a kick-off in the NFC championship game. They were all still screaming and everything, those fans are ridiculous.