We need corners, he can play the nickel, and Jamar will play the boundary...

 

I think you covered it all, they just drafted him to frustrate you.

 

If Bryan McCann is successful in AZ I'm really going to want an answer for this crap.

Looks like a waste of two mid round picks for nothing.

 

I mean you said the same thing about him like 15 different ways, so I'm not sure what anyone could possibly say that would make you change your mind and feel better about the selection.

None of us know exactly what the FO saw in him, but obviously it was different from what you saw.

 

I think they like his cover skills, but understand he has some progress to make as an all around player at CB

 

How many times you see Will Davis play? Thanks for your great insight on him. As you are the Will Davis expert on this forum.

 

Best cod drills at the combine, really fluid athlete, nice length, rangy, hasn't been playing football long. Been reading that pretty much across the sites.

 

Davis flagged 6 times all season, Jamar Taylor 5 times, Desmond Trufant: 6, Xavier Rhodes: 5

Had 22 passes defensed last year, Jamar Taylor: 13, Dee Milliner: 21, Xavier Rhodes: 10

In his three games against BCS teams (Utah, Wisconsin, BYU) he was targeted 7 times and beat on 3. The teams threw a combined 75 times in those three games and he was beaten 3. Now I don't have his full stats from the entire year, but he wasn't getting burned a ridiculous amount.

Yes, he's a pretty bad tackler and that may make you sour on him, but he's not the worst pick ever.

 

They saw a kid who has good Corner skills who needs to learn to finish a game..when competition within the game is peaking, he balls, but he also lets up when it isn't..

I watched him shut out Quinton Patton for a whole half, I mean a donut, then the prevent came into play in the 2nd half, Patton kept comin, a few close plays that didnt go Davis's way, and the let down happened..

 

It was Ireland's annual head scratching mid round reach.

08: Shawn Murphy
09: Turner
'10: John Jerry
'11: Daniel Thomas
'12: Egnew
'13: Will Davis

sad thing is half these guys we traded up for lol.

 

Just my notes real quick:
Going by your list maybe he should try a new sport. Darts? This guy did play at college level yeah?

 

He can get some INT's. Good ball hawk skills. He nabbed 5 interceptions in 12 games last year for Utah, and he led the ENTIRE NCAA in 22 pass deflections. He still is raw though and probably won't start right off the bat.

Basically, we got rid of our scrub CB's Sean Smith, who was decent in coverage (mostly) but could not INT. Smith had like 4 INT's in 60+ games with us. A CB who can't get a turnover, ever, is a scrub and you don't want him on the team unless he's a bench backup while your starters are injured.

So, basically, we got a guy in Dion Jordan to pair up with Cam Wake and create havoc for opposing offenses. Now, when a QB hurries a throw, or makes a bad throw, a guy like Davis will pick that ball off. Something which we could never get with scrubs like Smith.

I like the strategy.

 

Coyle is known in league circles as sort of a secondary guru.

Maybe we're confident that he can make players better in their coverage skills but as we've seen, we need players who can already catch the damn ball first.

 

Aye, Davis is a dreadful tackler and I'm not sure he can cover particularly well, largely because he's prone to play the quarterback instead of the receiver. I will say, however, that the kid's going after the ball relentlessly. Makes you wonder if you can't turn him into a free safety and have him sit there with the play in front of him, ballhawking.

 

Raw, upside is terrific, Combine metrics are off the scale good, fast, quick, smooth, great hips, looks like he'll flourish in zone, ball skills are superb......broke up 17 balls this past season. Fling on the New Mexico State game. Look at how he moves, look at how good he is IN ZONE. They flip round coverages a lot but he's intelligent, you can see he understands offensive football, he's a very good run blitzer off the corner, his feet are good. He's in good position in an awful lot of snaps. He's gets beaten for a score and because it's not All22 film, you can't see what happens but he's stride for stride in the first twenty yards and then twenty yards later he's 6 steps behind. I assume he was expecting help over the top which never came.

 

One other thing, I genuinely don't get this can't tackle thing. He's a solid open field tackler. This is a good player with really good upside because his basic ability is very, very solid. Davis might be my favourite pick of our four.

 

Sean Smith was the worlds worst tackler and he figured it out. I would rather my CB have ball skills and leave most of the tackling to the meat up front.

 

I saw him miss way too many easy tackles for my liking. A couple of times he had a clear shot at the RB who bounced it outside and ended up tackling too high or basically missing the guy completely. I'm not sure if it's a technique issue or if he's just too aggressive.

 

Don't see it, Ven. This is an aggressive tackler. Just re watched three of the six games I saw him in. Missed one tackle in the open field. Had a half a miss when he came up and stacked the guy up and spun him round but he didn't go down but held him up enough for the LB to nail him a split second later.

 

You have a certain wit about you Stiches.

 

He looked more complete in 2011. That La Tech game he looked tentative on running plays; I understand why people are drawing some conclusions about him. But I remember him two years ago and he looked a lot different. Under the old regime I am not sure Taylor and Davis would have been drafted.

 

Don't forget he wasn't recruited out of high school, ran track at Western Washington because they disbanded the football team, had a year of JUCO so in 2011 he was playing his first year of proper college ball. Bright kid, a true leader. Good, good pick.

 

Well, when I take a look at the LA Tech game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCDCJ6jiSko as a reference) I see him miss a rather easy tackle on the 4th play, followed by a lousy effort on the next one. In addition, I rarely, if ever, see him shed a block in the run game; if he's blocked by a WR, he's doing a "let's pretend I try to fight back" routine. Quite often, say the play at the 4:15 mark, he also can't be bothered to tackle at all and rather stands idly by while his teammates make the effort.

 

Hadn't seen that game. Not indicative of the six games I saw him in. Check out San Jose State for example.

 

Interesting. I hadn't seen that one and on the first couple of plays alone he gives more effort than in the whole LA Tech game.

 

Don't worry about Davis, he probably won't be on the roster once the regular season begins anyway. Like you, I have no idea what Ireland was thinking when he made this selection. The Dolphins do need CB's, but they need CB's who can actually be effective at the NFL level. I don't think Davis is one of these type CB's.

 

Maybe he was banged up a little for that game. You can't make a conclusion about a player looking at one out two games.

 

Who says I only looked at one or two games? I used that one as an example because Boom said he didn't see any tackling issues on tape and they're clearly evident in this game. Plus, the game's on Youtube, so everyone has access.

 

Best post in the history of this forum. Mods, can we save this and use as motivational speak for attracting more fans to this place?

 

LOL. Only guy on this forum whose on my ignore list. Takes a real talent to land there.

 

Well, it's really quite simple, Davis is here to counter the pats use of Rb's/Amendola in the slot torching the defense, he may not tackle exceptionally well, BUT, he has to quicks to try and limit the damage that maneuver has done to us over the years.

 

I'm not sure who said that? I looked back through the posts and could find anybody who said you only looked at one our two games.

 

From NFL.com:

We gave up a 4th round (No. 109), a 5th round (No. 146) and a 7th round (No. 224) to move back into the round for a guy that still needs to be developed? That's not a very good use of draft picks IMHO.