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“We’re about to wake the sleeping giant.”
Dolphins interim coach Dan Campbell was near the end of a 30-minute conversation with me on Saturday. I felt like I was being coached for about half of it, with Campbell sometimes lapsing into coach-speak, like I was one of his players: We gotta get off to better starts! We gotta get manageable second downs! But then, at the end, I asked him what he wanted Dolphins fans to know about this perennially disappointing franchise, and what the Campbell regime, however long it lasts, had planned.
Pause. Two, three seconds.
“I would say this,” Campbell, 39, said ominously. “We’re about to wake the sleeping giant.”
Pause. Then nothing.
The man is serious. He sounds nothing like an interim coach. In 30 minutes, you got the feeling that the matter of taking over a team in October after a pitiful 1-3 start was a trifling inconvenience—he was the head coach of the Miami Dolphins, and the fact that he took over now instead of in January didn’t really matter. He had every intention of taking advantage of this chance and turning Miami around this year, rather than keeping the seat warm for the next, more established head man. Odd. Campbell had never coached anywhere other than Miami, working as a coaching intern in 2010 and then as the tight ends coach since 2011. Never a coordinator, anywhere. Never a head coach, anywhere.
That word kept coming up—competitive. I brought up to him how hard it was to fathom, and how much an indictment of the talent-laden team it was, that after four games Miami has been outscored 37-3 in the first quarter.
“I addressed that with our team in our first meeting,” Campbell said. “Thirty-seven to three. I said, ‘Somebody tell me what that is.’ Nobody knew. I said, ‘That’s the score in the first quarter of our games.
Sleeping giant eh...hmmm.
this dude just may be able to do it...
Well, reason for hope is in the air..titans are a tough team, on the road..
the Miami Sleeping Giants..
tell you what, losing 37 to 3 in the first quarter of your first four games would def indicate they were sleeping, thank goodness Tbaum convinced Ross to fire Philbin...the first quarter is when both teams should be at their highest competetitve spirit..
Alright, so we know were gonne be foaming at the mouth, wich I absolutely love, but lets hope we know, that they know this, and we are prepared to not be misdirected to death..
im excited for the season.
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He can do it, but the lynchpin will be whether there is enough leadership among the players to pick up the message and run with it. If there isn't, expect the same lethargy.
"Rallying the troops" works only if that rallying can be sustained among the troops themselves, via their own energy and leadership.
People have been writing all this off as though it's just a mental problem. Words like leadership, motivation, energy, etc.
That's only half the story though. The O-line doesn't look good enough to compete given Tannehill's inability to escape and create so that's a major problem that isn't mental. Another would be the lack of talent in the secondary where Walt Aikens doesn't seem up to the task of playing free safety and the McCain/Taylor competition seems to regularly allow big plays. Finally, you look at the front-7 where Vernon, Mitchell and Wake aren't winning their battles and the LBs behind them are playing very average football.
"DolphinGreg wrote:
People have been writing all this off as though it's just a mental problem. Words like leadership, motivation, energy, etc.
That's only half the story though. The O-line doesn't look good enough to compete given Tannehill's inability to escape and create so that's a major problem that isn't mental. Another would be the lack of talent in the secondary where Walt Aikens doesn't seem up to the task of playing free safety and the McCain/Taylor competition seems to regularly allow big plays. Finally, you look at the front-7 where Vernon, Mitchell and Wake aren't winning their battles and the LBs behind them are playing very average football.
How can you tell that the performance you're seeing on the field is attributable to deficits in physical talent versus deficits in emotional factors?
Campbell >>>>> Philbin, Sparano, Saban in terms of PR, but at the end of the day, talk is cheap and you still have to go win football games.
Philbin gave us passer rating differential and a whole lot of meeeeeehhhhhh...
Sparano talked about Gladiators and feeding wolves. Cool on the surface, but I doubt he had wolves in the facility.
Saban made nonsensical hand motions every time he spoke and made a stink about Little Debbie's and Red Man Chew.
:shifty:
Just win.
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Listen I'm rooting for the guy I mean somewhere along the line we have to get lucky right?? However I have some concerns. In all honesty he is talking about the same issues Philbin talked about. We need to x,y,z. The proof isn't in the talking but on the field. I'm concerned about his ability to out gameplan the other NFL coaches having never been a coordinator or head coach at any level before. Can you use timeouts correctly?? There is alot of management issues he may not be good at that can cost us some game as well.
Beat the Titans and maybe I'll regain some belief in this team again. Until then, no dice.
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Yep...sleeping giant....uhh huh..Sorry not taking the bait with this one. I hope for good things, but the schedule says 2-14 if this sleeping giant wakes up and turns out to be the one from Mickey and The Beanstalk.
I think he is certainly motivated to do the job. I just wonder if his enthusiasm and demeanor is enough to overcome the obvious lack of talent throughout this roster.
On the OL, they have Pouncey and hopefully a healthy Albert as quality offensive linemen. James has yet to play at the level he did last year at the RT position. So far this year his play as been slightly below average at best. They still have a huge problem at both guard positions and these positions won't be resolved with the players they now have on the roster.
On defense, the defensive line just isn't the dominant line we anticipated it would be. I think Wake has seen his better days already and Vernon really hasn't played well since the early part of the 2014 season. Suh certainly can't be expected to be the only effective player on the DL, no matter how much he is paid.
The LB's and the secondary, other than Jones and hopefully a healthy Grimes, are a bunch of average to below average players who need to be replaced over the next couple of years if this team expects to ever be a legitimate playoff contender.
I still have serious reservations about Tannehill as the long term answer for the Dolphins at the QB position, but right now he is the only real option for the Dolphins as the starting QB.
I think the Dolphins can still win 3-4 more games this season but if Campbell can lead this team to another 8-8 record after starting out 1-3, he should win coach of the year in the NFL IMO.
I watched the Bills/Titans game... there's absolutely no excuse to lose that game... the Bills offense were 3 and out for 2 and 3/4's of a quarter, and still managed to beat Tennessee. And they didn't really do anything special defensively.. I expect us to go after Mariota, and I expect 3-4 sacks..
We'll see how our defense looks against the titans. There the problem was scheme. We hVe more talent than the outcome showed. On offense it all comes down to Albert, Pouncey and James staying healthy. We can function at least with those three. Any game we are missing one of them we will lose and there is no coaching to prevent that


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Reporter: "Why did you fire Coach Gase?"
Ross: "Because he wants to win now"
I have to tap-dance here a little bit because I can't identify my source, but I've heard firsthand that this organization is very excited about Campbell. Just the way he carries himself and holds those around him accountable. The way he gets in your face when you mess up or praises you on a solid play. The feeling and the energy he brings to the practice field on every down. The intensity he demands....the players absolutely love him and they feel like they're about to go to war for this guy.
So yeah, everything in DJ's post sounds 100% accurate....Dan Campbell is the real deal folks. Even though he does not have the experience on the coaching side, he was a leader on three different Super Bowl teams and he knows what a winning culture feels like. He still has the mentality of a player but also the leadership of a veteran coach, and folks inside the organization can't stop talking about how impressive he is.
So for next Sunday, expect an all-out war in the first quarter. Now, we may lose that game 77-14 but darn it, we're going to score early and we're going to knock the **** out of some people. That I can guarantee.
Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.
"KeyFin wrote:
I have to tap-dance here a little bit because I can't identify my source, but I've heard firsthand that this organization is very excited about Campbell. Just the way he carries himself and holds those around him accountable. The way he gets in your face when you mess up or praises you on a solid play. The feeling and the energy he brings to the practice field on every down. The intensity he demands....the players absolutely love him and they feel like they're about to go to war for this guy.
So yeah, everything in DJ's post sounds 100% accurate....Dan Campbell is the real deal folks. Even though he does not have the experience on the coaching side, he was a leader on three different Super Bowl teams and he knows what a winning culture feels like. He still has the mentality of a player but also the leadership of a veteran coach, and folks inside the organization can't stop talking about how impressive he is.
So for next Sunday, expect an all-out war in the first quarter. Now, we may lose that game 77-14 but darn it, we're going to score early and we're going to knock the **** out of some people. That I can guarantee.
My favorite part of this process is when he said all players are different and that some are motivated differently, those things put to rest the whole mantra of just being a rah rah guy and that men will blindly follow...
first you earn the trust by being real, hes been here 6 years for these players to see exactly what type of man he is..im sure that hes been consistent in his approach, then you insert the authority that this dude brings to the table, the energy, the ability to make players bring out the most intensity each one has, I think he has those intangibles..
I like the fact that he learned a lot from Parcells, I see similarities here, a don't tell me how good you are, get your ass out there and show me, YOU earn my respec type demeanor..basically because of the example he sets and who he is, I think these players will want to emulate him and look for his approval as to whether or not they passed his test of what toughness really is...he is the bar, and they are being measured.

At this point, the only thing that can be done is scheme changes. We're locked in as far as "talent" goes. And while scheme changes can help w/blocking, pass rush, and coverage, we're still fielding a team w/Jamar Taylor, McCain (who might do better in the nickle), Aiken/Thomas, Kelvin Sheppard, J. Douglas, Dallas Thomas, etc... It's going to be tough sledding to scheme around those talent incidences. Assuming of course, Campbell and the staff is even capable of scheming properly.
We're 1-3. Miami realistically needs to go 9-3 to have a shot at the playoffs. And of those 12 remaining games, we have 4 divisional games left (2 against NE). And while we don't have a world beater schedule remaining, we do play some decent teams. Fact is, our season is sunk as far as playoffs are concerned. And I'm not sure what a positive record in the final 12 games would achieve.
"KeyFin wrote:
I have to tap-dance here a little bit because I can't identify my source, but I've heard firsthand that this organization is very excited about Campbell. Just the way he carries himself and holds those around him accountable. The way he gets in your face when you mess up or praises you on a solid play. The feeling and the energy he brings to the practice field on every down. The intensity he demands....the players absolutely love him and they feel like they're about to go to war for this guy.
So yeah, everything in DJ's post sounds 100% accurate....Dan Campbell is the real deal folks. Even though he does not have the experience on the coaching side, he was a leader on three different Super Bowl teams and he knows what a winning culture feels like. He still has the mentality of a player but also the leadership of a veteran coach, and folks inside the organization can't stop talking about how impressive he is.
So for next Sunday, expect an all-out war in the first quarter. Now, we may lose that game 77-14 but darn it, we're going to score early and we're going to knock the **** out of some people. That I can guarantee.
Keyfin? Is that you? LOL!
Truly hope you are correct and your source is as well. I like him as it seems most here do but it still comes down to, can he X and O? Can he recognize guys who can play and guys who cant and get the right ones on the field?
The most sickening thing to me is the pile of talented guys we have let go over the last 4 years simply because Philbin couldn't seem to relate to them or just plain didn't like them.
Not My Circus, Not My Monkeys.
"KeyFin wrote:
the players absolutely love him and they feel like they're about to go to war for this guy.
...he was a leader on three different Super Bowl teams and he knows what a winning culture feels like. He still has the mentality of a player but also the leadership of a veteran coach.
Those few things there are the key ingredients of a good head coach. Think about how far and wide you'd have to search to find someone with all of those.
"Tin Indian wrote:
Keyfin? Is that you? LOL!
Truly hope you are correct and your source is as well. I like him as it seems most here do but it still comes down to, can he X and O? Can he recognize guys who can play and guys who cant and get the right ones on the field?
The most sickening thing to me is the pile of talented guys we have let go over the last 4 years simply because Philbin couldn't seem to relate to them or just plain didn't like them.
Again, I wish I could say more but this is one of those "sworn to secrecy" types of deals. A close friend has contacts inside the front office though and while he never gets hard details (like Landry starting a fight a few days back), I do hear a lot about the overall tempo of the team, how they're responding, etc. And basically I've heard that Campbell walks the field like he owns the place, encouraging others but demanding 100% effort from EVERYONE...coaches and players alike. So if we see someone talking plays off this coming Sunday, then we're also going to see them on the bench as Campbell finds someone fired up and hungry to make things happen. And from what I'm hearing, nobody is exempt.
I don't think that necessarily translates to X's and O's, which is the only reason Lazor is still around and why we brought in an interim DC. That's just my personal guess though and haven't heard anything specific...I don't get those kinds of details even though I'd love to have them.
Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.
I'm starting to hate this guy, he's getting me excited about this team again. Don't let me down coach!
"Vertical Limit wrote:
I watched the Bills/Titans game... there's absolutely no excuse to lose that game... the Bills offense were 3 and out for 2 and 3/4's of a quarter, and still managed to beat Tennessee. And they didn't really do anything special defensively.. I expect us to go after Mariota, and I expect 3-4 sacks..
I came away thinking the opposite. The Titans look like a tough team. Their defense is solid and Mariota can make some plays both with his arm and his legs, even if he is just a rookie. They have talent on that team.
This game won't be a picnic at all.
I'm honestly not expecting anything. One cannot come in and change a culture overnight. I HOPE that he can, but I have no expectations. All this talk has been great, and all the right things have been said. Now, I need them to shut up, and play. Don't talk, but rather, "do". I'm hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.
If he meant he wanted to change things he would just cut James and Thomas on the oline. I don't care who you put in set an example that mediocrity is gone. Were going nowhere with these guys anyway try something new.. Until they address the issues EVERY fan has seen for years now Im not going to be happy.
"Jen wrote:
I'm honestly not expecting anything. One cannot come in and change a culture overnight. I HOPE that he can, but I have no expectations. All this talk has been great, and all the right things have been said. Now, I need them to shut up, and play. Don't talk, but rather, "do". I'm hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.
i would def hold a meeting before practices and interviews this week and remind these players to all keep their mouth shut, head down and just talk about the opponenet..teach them how to keep their mouth shut, instead of, I think were gonna be a different team, or we needed this, just stfu and say nothing.

Honestly, I think he represents our best hope for a new HC, not for anything substantial, but in a situational way, because I do think it will be tough luring coaches into this situation.
We need to get lucky, plain and simple, I think most of what we'll be able to lure here are unproven, or retreads, or journeyman, and that's not to say you can't get lucky with someone there, but thats my point, were going to need to get lucky most likely because none of the big draw names will want to come into this "situation", which includes a HUGE FO, a possibly problematic owner and salary cap issues that will make it more difficult to rebuild.
So the best thing that could happen is for Campbell to emerge as the leader we've been missing for so long, I have no idea if he will, but you never know where the next leader will emerge from, he has the attitude and knowledge, but does he have the intangibles.
I know that I like him a hell of a lot more than Philbin, who I never thought was HC material.

"djphinfan wrote:
My favorite part of this process is when he said all players are different and that some are motivated differently, those things put to rest the whole mantra of just being a rah rah guy and that men will blindly follow....
that's just basic leadership. pretty common trait among all great leaders. what always surprises me, is that in a billion dollar organization with only 32 head coaches, that more of them don't exhibit that trait.
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