Damn man we can’t even beat bad teams now!

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DorfdadDorfdadforum_veteranOP
Nov 5, 2023, 11:29 PM

We have all heard we can’t beat good teams, well now it’s gotten worse we can’t even beat bad teams either it seems.

We lost to the Eagles and KC. The two good teams we have played.

We had a bad outta g and lost to the BILLS who lost again and suck. Can the media stop sucking Allen’s toes! They are a BAD team and Allen has fallen from his anoited savior of football status! Miami still in the drivers seat at 6-3!!!

time to get healthy and make a run at the playoffs

also if the jets somehow win they would be .5 behind us for the division without Rodger’s!! What the hell

CBcbradforum_veteran
Nov 5, 2023, 11:33 PM

Are you serious??? You mean no matter who we lose to it's the sky falling? Man. The narrative changes to fit the desired conclusion.

TheHighExhaultedTheHighExhaultedforum_veteran
Nov 5, 2023, 11:33 PM
Deus ex dolphinDeus ex dolphinforum_veteran
Nov 5, 2023, 11:40 PM

It brought a little joy back to see the Bills lose tonight. Miami keeps the division crown for a bit longer.

Or does Buffalo claim the lead again if they win while Miami is on their bye-week? Quite possible, given they play the Broncos next.

A terrible play call, terribly executed.

TheHighExhaultedTheHighExhaultedforum_veteran
Nov 5, 2023, 11:43 PM

"Deus ex dolphin wrote:

It brought a little joy back to see the Bills lose tonight. Miami keeps the division crown for a bit longer.

Or does Buffalo claim the lead again if they win while Miami is on their bye-week? Quite possible, given they play the Broncos next.

The Bills have 4 losses. Miami is still in first no matter what next week.

DorfdadDorfdadforum_veteran
Nov 5, 2023, 11:45 PM

"cbrad wrote:

Are you serious??? You mean no matter who we lose to it's the sky falling? Man. The narrative changes to fit the desired conclusion.

Just for the record this was a joke thread. I was just trying to say the bills suck because they lost again. I think you guys read too deep into stuff. Sometimes there’s no narrative the bill suck

CBcbradforum_veteran
Nov 5, 2023, 11:47 PM

"Dorfdad wrote:

Just for the record this was a joke thread. I was just trying to say the bills suck because they lost again. I think you guys read too deep into stuff. Sometimes there’s no narrative the bill suck

Thanks for clarifying. With some of the utterly ridiculous takes around here you just never know!

KeyFinKeyFinforum_veteran
Nov 6, 2023, 12:14 AM

"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

The Bills have 4 losses. Miami is still in first no matter what next week.

At this point of the season, I'm more worried about the Jets than the Bills. I'm sure a lot of folks will troll me, but the Jets defense is playing special and we need the Chargers to win tomorrow night. If the Jets get Rodgers back at the end of the year, that could be a team that makes a run if they're in playoff contention.

I think I hate the Chargers more than the Jets right now (the heck with Herbert!!), but I'll have to root for the Bolts tomorrow anyway.

Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.

SpringveldtSpringveldtforum_veteran
Nov 6, 2023, 03:17 AM

"KeyFin wrote:

At this point of the season, I'm more worried about the Jets than the Bills. I'm sure a lot of folks will troll me, but the Jets defense is playing special and we need the Chargers to win tomorrow night. If the Jets get Rodgers back at the end of the year, that could be a team that makes a run if they're in playoff contention.

I think I hate the Chargers more than the Jets right now (the heck with Herbert!!), but I'll have to root for the Bolts tomorrow anyway.

The Chargers *should* win as they are capable of some offensive output. The Jets have absolutely nothing on offence at all.

CBcbradforum_veteran
Nov 6, 2023, 03:20 AM

"KeyFin wrote:

At this point of the season, I'm more worried about the Jets than the Bills. I'm sure a lot of folks will troll me, but the Jets defense is playing special and we need the Chargers to win tomorrow night. If the Jets get Rodgers back at the end of the year, that could be a team that makes a run if they're in playoff contention.

I think I hate the Chargers more than the Jets right now (the heck with Herbert!!), but I'll have to root for the Bolts tomorrow anyway.

No it's a good point. Rodgers is one of the all-time greats, but he has repeatedly proven he can't overcome bad defenses in the playoffs — he's never overcome 26 points given up by his defense in the playoffs even once (out of 8 tries!). It's something that some other great QBs have been able to do many times (notably Brady), but not Rodgers. The only time he won a SB was when he played with the #2 defense. Most of the time he was playing with really bad defenses like Marino did.

So yeah, if for some reason the Jets make the playoffs and Rodgers is back, there's a chance that team is hard to beat. But he's also getting old and a full season layoff isn't easy to overcome, so from that perspective I really wouldn't be worried.

Phin McCoolPhin McCoolforum_veteran
Nov 6, 2023, 04:25 AM

"KeyFin wrote:

I think I hate the Chargers more than the Jets right now (the heck with Herbert!!), but I'll have to root for the Bolts tomorrow anyway.

I'd root for the Hell Satans if they were playing against the Jets.

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ExplosionsInDaSkyExplosionsInDaSkyforum_veteran
Nov 6, 2023, 06:35 AM

Well until Tua beats Buffalo in Buffalo during a snowstorm with one hand tied behind his back while throwing lasers from his knees behind no offensive line, I'm going to continue to be skeptical of him. I'm a 59 year old Boomer and I'm set in my ways at this point.

TheHighExhaultedTheHighExhaultedforum_veteran
Nov 6, 2023, 06:42 AM

"ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:

Well until Tua beats Buffalo in Buffalo during a snowstorm with one hand tied behind his back while throwing lasers from his knees behind no offensive line, I'm going to continue to be skeptical of him. I'm a 59 year old Boomer and I'm set in my ways at this point.

Potential post of the year.

SilverphinSilverphinforum_veteran
Nov 6, 2023, 08:40 AM

"ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:

Well until Tua beats Buffalo in Buffalo during a snowstorm with one hand tied behind his back while throwing lasers from his knees behind no offensive line, I'm going to continue to be skeptical of him. I'm a 59 year old Boomer and I'm set in my ways at this point.

Thanks for the laugh. I really needed it.

Phin McCoolPhin McCoolforum_veteran
Nov 6, 2023, 08:47 AM

"ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:

Well until Tua beats Buffalo in Buffalo during a snowstorm with one hand tied behind his back while throwing lasers from his knees behind no offensive line, I'm going to continue to be skeptical of him. I'm a 59 year old Boomer and I'm set in my ways at this point.

LOL. As if it would ever snow in Buffalo. :chuckle:

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StaleTacosStaleTacosforum_veteran
Nov 6, 2023, 09:24 AM

"KeyFin wrote:

At this point of the season, I'm more worried about the Jets than the Bills. I'm sure a lot of folks will troll me, but the Jets defense is playing special and we need the Chargers to win tomorrow night. If the Jets get Rodgers back at the end of the year, that could be a team that makes a run if they're in playoff contention.

I think I hate the Chargers more than the Jets right now (the heck with Herbert!!), but I'll have to root for the Bolts tomorrow anyway.

Agreed. Jets have a top 3-5 passing defense. Buffalo isn't anywhere near that. They are winning games with a trash bin at QB, and have beaten two teams w/ winning records. If Rodgers comes back, they'll be legit contenders. That said, can't keep winning games with an offense that is averaging 18 points a game.

If he fails to get a deal done with Tua I'm joining the call for "Grier has to go". -cbrad

The_Dark_KnightThe_Dark_Knightforum_veteran
Nov 6, 2023, 12:26 PM
"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

:sidelol:

“The person you will spend the most time with in your life is yourself, so you better make sure you’re someone interesting”

FinatikFinatikmoderator
Nov 6, 2023, 12:28 PM

"StaleTacos wrote:

Agreed. Jets have a top 3-5 passing defense. Buffalo isn't anywhere near that. They are winning games with a trash bin at QB, and have beaten two teams w/ winning records. If Rodgers comes back, they'll be legit contenders. That said, can't keep winning games with an offense that is averaging 18 points a game.

Rodgers is not coming back from an Achilles tear or snap this year or next. It's all psychological for him to keep the team upbeat.

Lots of people will tell you what they think about you and what you shouldn't and should do. Not everyone's thoughts are worth consideration. Don't take criticism from anyone who you wouldn't also go to for advice.

The_Dark_KnightThe_Dark_Knightforum_veteran
Nov 6, 2023, 12:37 PM

"Finatik wrote:

Rodgers is not coming back from an Achilles tear or snap this year or next. It's all psychological for him to keep the team upbeat.

I’m almost inclined to agree that he won’t come back

“The person you will spend the most time with in your life is yourself, so you better make sure you’re someone interesting”

StaleTacosStaleTacosforum_veteran
Nov 6, 2023, 01:28 PM

"Finatik wrote:

Rodgers is not coming back from an Achilles tear or snap this year or next. It's all psychological for him to keep the team upbeat.

Have you been following the news? He's already walking and throwing on it. He did a completely different procedure than normal. He's way ahead of schedule.

Additionally, I think if the Jets don't think Rodgers can come back, they'll go out and get someone. And it won't be hard to improve on Wilson.

If he fails to get a deal done with Tua I'm joining the call for "Grier has to go". -cbrad

CBcbradforum_veteran
Nov 6, 2023, 02:31 PM

"StaleTacos wrote:

Additionally, I think if the Jets don't think Rodgers can come back, they'll go out and get someone. And it won't be hard to improve on Wilson.

Unless Jets get Rodgers back it's just too unlikely for them to make a SB run. Jets currently have the #6 defense and #26 offense. There's maybe one SB winner in history that has similar (yet better) stats: 2015 Broncos: #4 defense and #19 offense.

All other cases where the offense was not top 10, the defense had to be #1 to win the SB: 1982 Skins (#1 defense, #12 offense), 1990 Giants (#1 defense, #15 offense), 2000 Ravens (#1 defense, #14 offense), 2002 Tampa (#1 defense, #18 offense), 2003 Patriots (#1 defense, #12 offense), 2008 Pittsburgh (#1 defense, #20 offense).

Some of those were legendary defenses. Jets defense is good, but not statistically good enough for them to get by with an average QB. One major exception to all SB winners of course is the 2007 Giants — worst team to ever win the SB: #14 offense and #17 defense, but that's an outlier.

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