Funny, evertime I see

For some reason I think of Harry Potter...

 

No love for Malcolm Jenkins or Vonte Davis? Seriously doubt 1 DB goes in round 1.

 

OK, so why do you have Michael Oher as the top tackle in college and Andre Smith as the first pick?

No-one is going to pick Oher anywhere close to that high. And I wouldn't feel comfortable having Mark Sanchez in my top 10. You're also relying on a pair of redshirt sophs coming out to make up two of your top 5 slots.

 

I agree that Maclin and Crabtree declare

 

I don't know if they will, but I'd love to get either one.

 

If we keep winning I doubt we could :lol:

 

I would have thought the same thing, but all the WRs left at pick 32 this past year makes me leery.

 

But there was no Crabtree or Maclin in the draft :wink2:

Hey we might luck out and Crabtree falls to us :up:

 

I would love to get a big target like Crabtree or Heyward-Bey.

 

You have a round 1 draft at the start of this thread and Andre Smith is the 1st overall pick. Again, why is Oher rated higher and yet Smith picked 1st. Makes no sense.

I don't think based on 4 games, one of which he looked awful, that Mark Sanchez is all of a sudden in the first round. It matters not what the quality of the class is. A mediocre QB made better by the surrounding talent is just that. If Oklahoma win the National Title, I could certainly see a scenario where Bradford declares.

 

I never have been more certain about anything in my life when I say that Miami WILL NOT draft Heyward-Bey in round 1.

 

Not with this FO :lol:

I won't be suprised if this year, again our draft will be made of more than 50% linemen.
I can see us drafting a LB or two.
A corner, definitely a corner, or a safety.
Im not a big draft genious, but i doubt we will be picking a WR in first three rounds, unless somebody makes a ridicilous fall, or FO will snatch a hurt player (kinda like Merling) that will ball out.

 

Agreed, perhaps a LB or CB in round 1.

 

Surely you go with the courage of your convictions. You rate Oher more highly and yet you bow to outside influences and put Smith top. Seems a very odd way to do a mock. As an aside, Michael Oher will struggle hugely to go as high as you predict, given his past. There is a golf course full of red flags about Mike and teams will absolutely not want to give him Jake Long money, regardless of his current familial situation. That and the fact that he's struggled consistently.

You stick with your rating of Sanchez, that's fine. He's an average QB running a pro style system that accentuates his talent because of what he has around him.

 

We will absolutely not draft a CB in the first round. Of that I'm positively certain.

As for this mock, there's a couple of selections that quite frankly don't make a whole lot of sense to me. Phil Savage going RB in Cleveland who are in dire need of ILB help, have DE depth issues and only one reliable pass rusher? Can't fathom that pick. Detroit going CB despite having the worst trenches in the business? I mean, yeah, it's Detroit, but c'mon. Houston going DL early yet again, I don't see either and if Al Davis goes OT after the whole Gallery fiasco I'll be shocked. Not Al Davis style.

 

Firstly, Ireland won't draft a WR in round 1 and more importantly, they don't need another project which is what DHB is.

 

Jesus dude, you're making this much more difficult than it has to be. Did you or did you not write:

Mock drafts are about how you feel. You clearly rate Oher as the better prospect so have the courage of your convictions to go with that, especially almost a year away from the draft.

Is Sanchez running that pro style offense as handy as it turned out for John David Booty? He was very average in the Oregon State defeat.

 

One of the big differences in Cleveland between this year and last is that Jammal Lewis hasnt been nearly as productive. Wells (and Quinn) would possible give that offense the boost and burst it needs to put points up on the board. That D isnt 1-2 player away from shutting people out, but the O may be 1-2 players away from being really dynamic.
Detroits lines are truly horrible, but so is that entire team if we are honest. A lineman would make a lot of sense as thats always a great place to start rebuilding, but they could any number of directions.
Houston could easily go DL again. They want a player opposite of Mario Williams something fierce. They also need a CB horribly, but picking early with Selvie on the board he would be hard to pass on.

Al Davis is insane, god only knows what that lunatic will do lol! Though if Crabtree or Macklin are available, I dont see them being passed by. :up:

 

I disagree. I tend to follow the Browns quite closely because on of my friends is a Browns fan and I really don't think that Lewis is the problem or perceived as the problem by the FO. I also happen to think that there D is one or two guys away from being really good. They invested heavily in the DL and have a good core unit there. Their young corners are a lot better than most give them credit for. What they do lack is a pass rushing threat aside from Wimbley. They don't get any pressure from the ILB spot and as soon as the opponent takes Wimbley out of the picture, they are toast.

As far as the offense is concerned, they simply aren't as good a run blocking OL as they are in pass blocking. Steinbach was hurt, Thomas isn't a run-blocking beast and the right side with Hadnot and Shaffer plainly sucks. Plus, Fraley's more of a finesse center. While I don't think it impossible that they'll go RB in a later round, I'd be pretty shocked to see Savage use a high 1st round pick on a running back.

Yeah, but I really don't see how you don't build inside out if you're as bad as they are. It just makes the most sense to me to go OL/DL here. You have to rebuild both lines from the scratch and until you managed to do that, no position and no player is going to make you a contender.

They could but I suspect that this is going to be a make or break season for Kubiak next year and I think that in the end, they are going with a position that provides more immediate production.

Me neither. Crabtree is a guy Davis will be all over. He's a lunatic, yeah, but I don't see a stubborn guy like Davis going OT early again after Gallery.

 

The Browns D have really been missing their best player and best DB the past few weeks (Sean Jones).

 

Ginn Jr. > Heyward Bay

 

I think Cushing of USC will go in the first round...I didn't see him on your board....I think he is just as good as Rey Mauluga, if Rey is taken off the board when we draft. My only concern with Cushing is he has had some injuries.

 

Had some injuries? Thats an understatement. Kid wont play a down in the nfl, he will be injured constantly.

 

Oh my God.

1. You say you rate Oher higher.
2. You place Smith as the 1st pick in the draft.
3. They play the same position.
4. That's inconsistent scouting.

The evidence is in the quote. Again I ask, did you or did you not write:

If you didn't, I'd call Marty or Malcolm because someone's logging in as you. If you did write it, then there's your evidence in black and white and it says and forgive me if I'm repeating myself:

I'm not sure what else there is to say. Mocks are about individual assessment. At this stage they can't be based on anything else. And when you write:

.....it seems odd that you would then put Smith well ahead of Oher in a mock.

As for Carson Palmer and USC, I'm not sure of your point. Miami produced Jim Kelly. Does that automatically mean that Ken Dorsey is going to tear up NFL record books?

Answer: no.

 

He's a track star running routes. Or trying to. Not saying he doesn't have talent, but that's a LOT of work needed.

 

^Boy, did somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed/universe.

 

I don't think we'd draft him either (probably 2nd not 1st anyways) but one can hope.

 

Will defer to you on the Browns as I dont follow them that closely. I know they have a budding secondary, but if Selvie is off the board Im not sure who that high might be a big pass rusher for them unless they reach or someone steps it up in the offseason.

As far as Houston, I think THIS is Kubes make or break year. Certainly will be if they dont pick it up soon. They just arent able to mount any kind of consistency. On offense they really dont need anything unless they go QB or interior line. Their WRs are good 1-4, Slaton is the RB they have been looking for, Daniels is a solid TE, Leach a probowl FB.
Defensively, if Jenkins/Davis are around they will certainly garner attention, but if not a good pass rusher like Selvie will be the first priority. They dont blitz much and rely on their DL to get pressure, so a premium guy opposite Williams is vital. They tried to do it by signing Antwan Odom but he isnt working out well.

And Davis, ye gods, who knows. Maybe he takes Wells lol! :)

 

Keep an eye on Alex Hall as the opposite Linebacker of Kamerion Wimbley. He's a first year player out of St. Augustine. 6'5, 250 and has two sacks this year. He lit up training camp from what I know and they really like him.

 

Jesus.......this place has officially become amateur hour. Let me tell you something about the draft. NO-ONE has Andre Smith very high on their "board" because no team has a board yet. So the assumption that you're talking to people in the know is frankly ludicrous given that anyone "in the know" would tell you they have no draft board.

Did you or did you not write:

If the answer is no, contact the moderators. If the answer is yes, then.....well, I dreally don't know. I'd try giving this draft lark up as a lost cause and let the experts on the site deal with it, rather than spouting off.

 

Let's knock off the pissing match. There is no reason people can't disagree without being sarcastic.