Yeh..thats kinda a bummer for D Will..feel like he could be a good asset

 

True on Dwill, but Dion is a nice toy for this Defense. Hopefully we find a role for him before seasons end. Vernon and Shelby are playing damn well, why don't we utilize the plethora of skills Jordan has, that caused us (or Ireland?) to draft him top3. If we can get this kid going, flying to the Qb ala vs cincy last year, shadowing gronk like last year, it could put this Defense over the top.

 

Kinda overlooking Jags ?? We're not a good enough team to overlook anyone...

 

Meh. Hard for me to get excited about him.

 

It doesn't matter if fans over look a team. Has zero to do with the outcome

 

apparently its been reported he's at 265..10 lbs lighter than training camp and preseason where he looked like he was on drugs..










to soon?

 

True, me and my opines either, but I'm still leary about Philbin's style. While I'll agree that they have of late become that 'quiet, confidence' of Philbin, it's just like his teams, to date, to lay an egg against a team they should handily defeat...

It's really exciting what this guy (DJ) can be if we utilize him correctly. I'm also not convinced that Coyle has always 'utilized' his people right, but the guy does have some special skills that if ever unleashed...could be really exciting...

 

i can understand where Larry is coming from...I mean this when I say this..a board like our board here at thephins is a very powerful tool that creates the narrative for the culture..

players, marketers of the team, media, if you don't think all three visit the most cutting edge insight into the main products culture, you would be highly mistaken.

heres what i would say about the topic...This freakin team, has NO business taking any team lightly, who the hell do they think they are, they have accomplished nothing except cutting our hearts at the end of last year by not giving a sh": about continuing to play for something bigger than themselves..

That being said, I think they are ready for this challenge and I think they have a little bit of understanding what I'm saying..Im not sure the full sacrifice is there yet, but I feel something is cooking.

 

his body is his tool..if it aint right then nothing matters, he will not be what he could be.

they have already showed they don't know what there doing with dion, the question is will they change their flawed direction, are they men enough to admit it.

 

If he is only 265 now, it seems like he is going in the right direction. And agree with you that his best skill set is suited to OLB/DE hybrid like Jason Taylor.

 

If he was training with Jason Taylor as his mentor, I hope some of Jason's work ethic rubbed off on Dion. The kid has unlimited potential.

 

Not sure anyone remembers this, but they had a short 1 on 1 interview piece during one of the preseason game as with Jordan. ..and he seriously looked messed up. Hopefully he is doing well now.

 

I don't mind giving him Wheeler's snaps. Although he didn't have much at all last game.

 

Lewis is out for the Jags, so Jordan could get warmed up for Gates by covering Clay Harbor this week. :up:

 

if 265 is accurate that up 18 bs in 1 and a half years...if drugs were not involved, and taking into account this specific body type, 18 lbs is too much too fast.

 

Wasn't he about 275 before?

 

linus there were times in preseason where i saw him act on the field where i knew and stated something is wrong, some folks tried to tell me it was all good, he was moving fine, blah blah blah, i know that kids movement and aggression like the back of my hand, there was something wrong, i even listed exact plays that showed the signs..basically he was doing drugs and eating like a pig..and it effected his movement and his mentals.

 

yes, this training camp thats what he weighed in at.now that we know he wasn't doing steroids, that was 30 lbs of bad weight he put on during the offseason.

 

I do not see any reason to believe drugs were the reason for his weight gain. If you have concrete proof, that is a different story. Since he did not test pos for steroids or HGH, IMO, saying something like that facilitated his weight gain is speculation. I do not believe anyone can tell that, just from seeing him out there in his football gear.

 

I just think that at this point in the season, he's more of a distraction than anything.

 

I did not mean to infer that the drugs were the specific cause of the weight gain, i meant both things happened at once..he was doing drugs and gaining bad weight..now, could doing drugs trigger him to not eat right..absolutely..bottom line, both of those things were happening..and it showed up on the fiied thru his movement and his attitude.

 

could very well be, from our perspective like 68 said, he's one strike away from oblivion...Who knows where this dudes head is he had a very troubled upbringing..very troubled..

i thought his mental toughness to survive that would serve him well at this level..maybe not.

 

Unless the "drugs" were maybe inhaled... and caused the munchies... :shifty:

 

Made me think of that clip of Jim Turner from Hard Knocks standing by himself on the sideline during the game and asking into the headset, "Am I on drugs?"

 

I disagree.

 

Funny...DJ would fistpump a post that mentions deep in his ***.....just sayin....rofllllll

 

I did as well and felt pretty good about the pick.

 

The only thing we know he was taking was a banned stimulant, and that is assuming he was honest about it. I know of no proof he took any banned substance with anabolic properties. Stimulants do not facilitate weight gain. Just the opposite. For all we know, he could have gained weight from eating prime rib, whey protein and taking creatine. The latter can certainly help one get stronger and gain weight that can look puffy, but it is water rather than fat. Is creatine even legal for NFL players? Don't know why it wouldn't be, but with NFL ya never know.
I did not see any indication of a different attitude in preseason regardless of what he actually took.

 

Most people don't go to "treatment" for taking stimulants or the wrong over the counter creatine. The writings on the wall.


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Most also do not need treatment to give up marijuana...I got the feeling that he was doing crystal meth but I could be wrong..hopefully this is all in his past and he can start to play ball and realize that the Miami Dolphins invested heavily in him and NEED production from him

 

to me his lackluster effort and look in preseason was because he was down while he knew he won't be here until his suspension is over, i expect a good performance out of him today

 

you didn't I did..

once I knew what dion weighed in at, then saw him on the field and his movement, I made some assumptions, then he got suspended twice and played like a man with 30 extra lbs on a body that could not handle it..

If your a quick twitch athlete with an extremely hi metabolism, you should never gain 30lbs and expect your body to handle the change, if your really on the juice then ok, if not then it makes 0 sense..apparently it wasn't the juice, so it was bad weight, which will weigh down that frame big time, and imo thats exactly what showed in the movement..completely lethargic.


so basically heres where I'm at with dion and what happened.

1] he was told by this staff to put on weight to play more of a defensive end position.

2] without peds, that is a very hard proposition for this mans physique and metabolism.

3] he did some party drugs during the offseason

4] ate like a pig to get the empty calories it takes for that frame to add weight..if he gained 30bs, and he didn't do steroids, how much muscle do you think was on that 30 lb weight gain?

5] got depressed.

 

is that a possibility?