The poll says it all...I just wanted to see where everyone stood. I will likely do the same poll every few weeks throughout the season. Just keep in mind that I'm asking about 2016 ONLY, because that's ultimately what he will be graded on once his big contract jump comes due at the start of next season. Remember, we also have an out in his contract so it's not unthinkable that we walk away entirely if 2016 goes sour.
So again, we're judging him here on week one of 2016 only for now...and in 2 weeks we will judge him on weeks 1, 2 and 3. Most of us know where we stand on the career of Ryan Tannehill and we don't need to get into all of that. Because honestly, IT DOESN'T MATTER. It's a brand new season and he's undeniably our starter, so please try to keep the arguments of the past to a minimum.
For the record, I'm voting with Snoop Dog on this one...even though I have no idea what it means.
Do you approve of Ryan Tannehill in 2016
Poll closed Sep 25, 2016.
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Heck yeah I do, he's the shizzle fo snizzle!
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I'm not sure yet, it's too early to tell.
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Heck no, did you even watch the game?
3 vote(s)9.7%
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Too early. Offense was inept but he wasn't helped by Kenny "drop for the Anthem then drop the ball" Stills.
He still looks a bit mechanical in the pocket but it may have been a function of conservative play calling by Gase so I'll reserve judgment for now.dolphin25, Tin Indian, vt_dolfan and 4 others like this. -
I'm all honestly I'm having a tough time selling myself on Thill. I think he is what he is right now.. All the intangibles in the world, all the skill but still not the type of playmaker at the position you need to be a great QB.
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I thought that Ryan played ok, given the circumstances. Not good, not bad. He didn't make any big mistakes, and none of the passes that weren't tipped should have been intercepted. Its hard to say how much of the ugly offense was the scheme and play calling and how much was Ryan not hitting what chances he had. The deep ball to Stills was close to perfect. I give him a B- on the week, taking into account the Seahawks defense and the venue. Had he played that way against a poor defense at home, then the grade would be lower.
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I didnt vote because I thought he had a bit of a sluggish game but I expect him to rebound big time over the coming weeks and I think we will see just how good he is in the second half of the season when we come out of our bye. It usually takes eight weeks for everyone to get on the same page with a new system let alone a new coach who has to figure out who he can trust and who he cant. But by game eight I think we'll have a high octane offense that will be top ten if foster is the real deal. It will probably take that long for our oline to learn to run block with each other. I can accept going into the bye week 3-4. 2-5 would be a disappointment but losing to the steelers, bengals and patriots wouldnt kill me this early. The second half i want to go 7-2 or 6-3 at worse. I still predict he will end up playing in the pro bowl. I honestly think thats going to be one fo his worst games of the season and if thats as bad as it gets its going to be a good season
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I want him to succeed, I want him to win but I see the same old Tannehill last Week just mediocre. Im not trying to anger anyone or trying to start a debate. I just don't see a guy who motivates the team or gives it a spark and no I'm not trying to compare to Marino. We cant afford so many 3 and out in a no huddle offense just look at the time of possession you cant have the defense on the field that long. Heres to hoping Week two there's a better out put and running game and a huge win.
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Way too early to judge at this point. He went up against one of the best defenses in the NFL in one of the toughest places to play. Based on his QBR, you would say no. I don't think it's fair considering the factors mentioned.
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Actually, I think last season QB's posted an average QBR of 76. Tanny's 75 was along those lines. And like someone posted in another thread here, if Stills had not dropped that pass..his QBR would have been a cool 99.resnor, DolphinGreg and KeyFin like this. -
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hard to tell from one game, but the offense looked as awful as ever.
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One game, in a new year, in a new system. Not even going to judge.
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I would just say that for a host of reasons, none of us got to see what we were hoping to see. We will continue to wait.
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Must use entire skillset to convert on third down, and that includes not throwing short of the sticks on third down, and running to convert by the QB...that didn't happen in game one, nor the last four years..like last year we will continue to be the 30th ranked team in football..
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Fact of the matter is he HAS TO GET BETTER in the pocket. He has to make more plays and take more chances. He has to develop a sense of urgency when the rush is on and avert and / or make something out of nothing.
Even the most ardent Tannehill supporters are starting to see that his deficiencies in the above areas need to be improved, and improved rapidly. This franchise cannot accept mediocrity any longer and it needs to start at the QB position, because like it or not, the QB position has the single largest impact on the game.
I'm hoping he incrementally improves to the point where this team can compete for the playoffs, and with that confidence he starts playing loose and becomes the QB we ALL know he has the potential to be.dolphin25, KeyFin and DolphinGreg like this. -
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My initial instinct is to want to wait until week 5 or 6, similar to the first season under Lazor, but I've been hurt too much by this team to give it the benefit of the doubt. For me, it's a solid "Not enough information".
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Well, short passes seem to be Tannehill's bread and butter, so ANYTHING we do outside that opens up the short passes. That includes running, QB scrambling, intermediate passes, throwing the bomb to Stonehenge (a little Necessary Roughness humor), etc.
I think my biggest disappointment in week 1 was how effectively Landry was neutralized except on that 4th quarter catch. And the only reason he had room to run there was because he was the 1st option....and then around the 6th option as Tannehill scanned everywhere else and even contemplated running it himself. Which...by the way...have we ever even seen Tannehill do that in the pocket before? I don't think he's ever had that much time. I am very optimistic about our offensive line this season.dolphin25, DolphinGreg and Unlucky 13 like this. -
There have been times over the last few years where we’ve used excuses about the QB being young (2012 & 2013), the line not being capable of protecting him (2013 thru 2015), the WRs not being good enough (2013 & 2014) or the play-caller being insufficient and out-of-touch (2013 & 2015).
However we appear to be approaching a point where those excuses are beginning to be taken less seriously. Expectations are rising. The roster is better than ever and the coaching projects to be solid this year. Thus, there is already pressure on this offense to perform better than it has in the past.
To me, the obvious “problem” with the offense right now is that it’s far too hot and cold. As you’d expect, scoring drives are typically sparked by a key play. However, the problem is that the offense doesn’t seem capable of making those key plays consistently throughout a game. They seem to happen randomly and too infrequently for this offense to be labeled “explosive.” We’ll see 3 or 4 consecutive drives that all result in 3-and-outs and then all of a sudden there’s a beautiful 6-play drive that scores a TD.
And we’re left asking…where the heck has that been at!?
As a Clemson fan, I get to see a lot of that “bang your head against a wall” kind of play-calling but the difference there is that every 3 drives, DeShawn Watson either scrambles for 40 yards and looks like the best player on the field or he connects on a deep bomb to one of Clemson’s future NFL receivers. That’s kind of the offense Seattle runs: stall, stall, big drive, stall, big drive, big drive, stall, stall, big drive, etc. If you’re hitting on enough big plays then you can afford to be a little inconsistent.
To me, it just feels like Miami is a lesser version of all that—they’re just not a Championship-level offense due to the inconsistency. When you zoom in and ask why you can get all the excuses I started with above: the QB, the line, the receivers, the play-caller, yada, yada, yada.
So that’s what we all sit here and chat about all week. We all describe it in our own way but I’d say that on the whole, the offense just doesn’t produce enough. That can probably be quantified in both total yards as well as 1[SUP]st[/SUP] downs. The sad reality is that no matter who comes to Miami, the potential is never maximized because there's not enough overall production to go around. I'm okay with a QB throwing nearly 600 times but the overall production has to be higher if that's the case. Right now the efficiency numbers which revolve around yardage show that Miami isn't producing enough.
Right now, it looks like this line is going to be able to pass-protect and in year-5 I think it’s fair to assume Tannehill should be familiar enough with NFL football to show some ability inside the new offense. In the past, I’ve looked at a lot of yearly stats—and there will be plenty of time for that after the season—but right now it’s more in the eye test and in the general flow of the offense throughout a game.
I liked how the Dolphins offense looked both early and late against Seattle. However, the offense seemed to grind to a halt after the deep shot that missed. After that point, the offense seemed to go cold for a good 2 quarters despite a bunch of help from the defense. It finally made the adjustments necessary to drive down the field late but that happened because (1) Jarvis Landry got a big run-after catch and (2) Damien Williams broke free on a screen. So between those 2 plays and the big Arian Foster check-down, the majority of the Dolphins offense can be summed up right there. And that’s the problem. -
I'm no QB evaluator but I thought Tannehill looked like a different guy. I think his footwork is better and he protected the ball.
This is what Cian Fahey had to say after watching the tape of last weeks game.
[video=twitter;775437101781422080]https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/775437101781422080[/video]
This is pretty crazy. Tannehill sticks the landing.
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Wow that is some extensive weekly recap BR has laid out for 2016.
Thought Tannehill's footwork looked better all preseason too. Quicker and with more purpose. He was too sluggish in the pocket for a kid with his physical tools. My hope is that the improvements there will help him maneuver pressure, process faster, and possibly encourage him to extend more plays or scramble. Should be more comfortable this week against a very meh Pats pass rush.
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Yeah, I'm sure if that pass was completed it would result in Tannehill and the offense playing worse.
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Again, you're thinking like an "adjuster". If we hit Stills deep over the top - the Seahawks are put on alert and I guarantee you he doesn't continue to get 1-on-1 coverage back there.
We both know teams leave plays out there on the field all the time though. If that Stills pass had happened deep in the 4th quarter you might have a point, there was plenty of ball game left.
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