[video=youtube;6nSKkwzwdW4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nSKkwzwdW4[/video]

 

Wow that's kinda out of nowhere.
I thought he might be worth developing. Someday I'll have to realize they don't care what I think :p

 

Surprised. Looks like Watkins is coming though, unless someone else has signed. Samuda looked overwhelmed to me this training camp...they must have done enough evaluation on him...

 

that could only mean watkins has signed

 

Dolphins sign OG Danny Watkins, waive Josh Samuda

The Dolphins signed offensive guard Danny Watkins, who was released by the Philadelphia Eagles on Saturday. To make room for Watkins Miami released Josh Samuda, a former Hollywoods Hills standout who make the team as an undrafted rookie last season.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...ns-waive-josh-samuda-20130903,0,7574755.story

 

Samuda released?

He sucked, but didn't suck badly enough that someone who hasn't even played a down in practice should be anointed as his immediate replacement.

 

Looks like that's exactly what happened.

 

Funny, I just saw this,

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6604/danny-watkins

 

Yeah, it would have been nice if Omar listed a source.

 

Adam Beasley

Danny Watkins to the Dolphins a done-deal. A one-year contract, I'm told.



Ireland loves him some one year deals.

 

Best of luck to Samuda in finding another gig, and best of luck to Watkins on making the most of this opportunity.

 

I'm a bit disappointed that they've cut Samuda so early. I don't know if there is functionally a lot of difference right now but he had upside.

 

Actually this is more interesting because Samuda was also the backup center.

This mean were trusting Garner at Center if Pouncey goes down? Not for more then finishing off a game I would think. This means Incognito is really the backup center here if Pouncey were to go down and Watkins/Garner would fill in more likely at Guard.

 

Josh Samuda was only a second year player and he was very physically gifted. I don't like releasing him so soon. He had a handul of bad pass protection plays at right guard this preseason, no denying that. He wasn't ready to start yet. But he played pretty well at right guard otherwise and I thought he showed some potential for a young player. They replace him with a first round bust whose love for the game is openly questioned, who has been referred to as "soft" by the people that drafted him in the first round.

 

LMAO...you mean soft like crying to your "fans" on twitter when you stink up a stadium in a preseason game against third teamers?

 

No. I mean "soft" like in the actually-relevant way, on the football field.

 

We re-signed Bobby Carpenter?

 

I confess I don't know much about Watkins but considering he was a first round pick, I would think his potential ceiling is higher than Samuda and his current floor is also higher.

 

Oh sorry my bad...I thought you said Watkins was a guy "who has been referred to as "soft" by the people that drafted him in the first round".....I guess I missed the on the "actually relevant" on the field part of that analysis, I thought it was someone's anonymous opinion from someone in the building .. my bad ...... but it seems a real different evaluation of his desire than what I have heard from a guy i know that actually plays on offense for the Eagles.

Sorry my bad, I will step aside now.

 

ok,,,, so what does the guy who plays for the eggles think of watkins????

 

Don't know much about Watkins. I'm disappointed with Samuda being cut. He had nice strength, but struggled with the quicker Ts. I'd like to think that you could mask that with improved footwork and technique especially in a phone booth position like RG. I was also disappointed with Louis being cut. I believe he had a very good chance of being an above average RG for us once he healed up. Has he signed anywhere yet?

 

i believe Louis is still a FA

 

I think it is more likely they were looking for someone who could actually play OL in the NFL. Hopefully that will be Watkins, because it certainly wasn't Samuda.

 

Hey Ray! Long time.

Hope things are going well for you...

On topic, I don't know anything about Watkins except what has been said. My real question is the Eagles oline that good, that if they cut him we should scoop him up? I thought I remembered their oline as being pretty poor...

 

The hope is for the first round pick to be humbled, know what it feels like to be a backup, work on your mentals while your riding the pine, try to come to a realization that you were born lucky and get to play a game that allows you to take of yourself and your family for the rest of their lives, let our marine oline coach get in his *** to see if he can light that flame, and see what happens with minimal risk..

Reclamation Watkins has begun..

 

care to share 2cents?

 

This is why so many people hate Ireland, because of **** like this ! I'll bet Samuda goes on to star somewhere else, or at least play, and Watkins is out of the game by this time next year.

 

Why is this Ireland? Wouldn't the coaching staff be the ones to decide who is cut?

 

Strange if another certain GM made a move like this it would be lauded as another sign of his genius.

 

Ireland is at least equally culpable IMO.

 

Not in the terms the poster was complaining about.

Their complaint was that Ireland cuts a player whose potential is cultivated by another staff. That would mean the player is talented and it was a good job uncovering them, but a bad job cutting them. The cutting them part is probably not decided by Ireland.

 

I can't say I personally know much about Watkins or even that I believe that a player's draft position is necessarily indicative of they're talent level. But generally a 1st round pick has at least measurables that would put him in the top three rounds. Often times the difference is personality (drive/motivation/discipline/etc). IIRC Watkins had a good character reputation coming out and was considered a very safe pick. It's possible that he got a little full of himself after being a first round pick and that this is the kick in the head that gets him back on the right track. At first blush (and without having a bead on his actual play ability), this seems like a high upside, low cost gamble on a one year deal.

 

Culpability kind of implies that we already know it's a bad move. We don't, yet. Samuda may never play in the NFL again. I'm just saying I disagree with it and wish they'd have tried to develop him a little longer.

There's no need to turn this into an Ireland thing. There's plenty of moves in his past that are proven to be bad moves already, no need to start reaching for data points based on what we think might happen.

But I do agree with you that Jeff Ireland is as responsible for any/every player cut from the 53 man roster as anyone else in the organization. More so, in fact.