Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/17/2592477/miami-dolphins-might-shun-qb-option.html#storylink=cpy
Although I hate when the word "might" is used in media as listed in the thread title, obviously it had to be included... Interesting article, my first impression was "suprise.. suprise.." I wonder if its a subtle hint that Flynn is still an option(Moore as well obviously).... or a much later less desired QB in draft..... Also... Whats happening with Philbin for that matter?
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That makes me about as uneasy as the fact that we don't have a coach yet... Since Flynn is a FA though, I don't mind exploring that option if the price is right. Can't hurt
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Reality is, when Barkley decided not to declare, our options to draft a Qb dropped by 75%, as if the Rams held out for a premium price for the #2 overall, a team looking for a Qb could just deal with the Vikings or Jags and still land a Qb, as it sits now if the Rams demand excessive value for the #2 overall we may have little choice but to pass on making the trade.
Rams in effect have the #1 overall with Luck sure to be off the board.
This means we may have to go the FA route or stick with Matt Moore depending on price.dolfan7171, gunn34, Bumrush and 2 others like this. -
I was willing to bet they were going to grab a O lineman for first pick.... hm..
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Well now is about the point in time where we have to ask ourselves if those meaningless wins were worth it.
QB has become such a position of importance in this league. And with the rookie salary cap in place, trading up is going to be ridiculously costly. So we're stuck with playing the free agent game. I suspect that will work out about as well as it did for Arizona.Aquafin and HardKoreXXX like this. -
This is why i'm wondering if there is any legitimacy to this article, if it is trying to hint that they are leaning toward the FA grab for QB... or just saying **** it and putting everything in Solely Moore's hands. I don't have a huge problem with the latter, but I really like the Flynn idea. -
And as far as paying Flynn a boatload of gold and hookers. The whole Kolb thing can make it go either way I would think. It can be looked at in a negative or positive light in comparison to what will happen to Flynn -
Flynn could be a system Qb, meaning GB's system+talent mix matches his skills perfectly, take him somewhere else and will he play as well?
I'm doubtful, I'd prefer signing a vet FA Qb, there are several, but adding weapons to the offense via the draft and then seeing what will happen. -
I'd say no, and keep in mind, the defense is as much responsible for the 6-10 record as the lack of a premium Qb, 4 blown 4th qtr leads, 5 losses by 13 pts on avg.
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But As I said I see it as more low risk/reward type gamble. Id be happy as heck with Moore AND Flynn, and drafting the weapons and protection we need. As you know our franchise has usually either refused to take the gambles (don't even need to site sources, you know what i mean) or taken the blatantly wrong ones. This could be the same kind of FA that someone else signs and we really kick ourselves over. Meanwhile. We have the chance the bring in Philbin, provided he is still going to be open to it. That would bring a part of their system here if Flynn needs it. and lord knows MIA could use a bit of GB's system.
edit: It's hard for me to say because I do like Moore, and I like what i've seen out of him despite some inconsistencies. (and I agree about what you said about our defense) but I know we have a knack for not making the right choices and them coming back to haunt us, so this being an issue on the fence with fans, i'm for it :P -
If we trade down, my head will explode.
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That is the way the NFL works, so their is a risk in terms of the salary cap and in terms of opportunity costs, if Flynn flames out the starts he did poorly in kept a better Qb in Moore from playing.
I also think the fact the lions were shredded the next week speaks to what Flynn actually accomplished in his 2nd start, he'll want 30-40 million, still pay it? -
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2) Without the resurgence of the team, we probably would have a different opinion of a few players...Bush and Moore right off the top, but even guys like Davis, Smith, the entire DL, Jerry, etc had much better runs in the second half of the season for various reasons. We wouldn't have known about that with any of those guys had the season played out differently. This doesn't excuse the first half of the season. What is does show is that perhaps, coaching did have something to do with the first half results vs. the second half of the season. While 6-10 is nothing to get excited about, the individual performances of many players is. We might not have seen that if we'd purposely tanked the season... -
It's not an easy concept for me to grasp because I obviously just want what will bring the most success. It might be a bit more risk than I assumed but I still see it as a viable option on the table and I think Philbin/Flynn should still be heavily considered and atleast evaluated by all means.... But, All-in-all if they end up keeping Moore and creating the weapons and protection around Solely HIM.. I still wouldn't be upset.
Perhaps continuity of our end-season spark plus draft/FA upgrades would be the best option... i'm starting to think... But this is really all going to come down to who we select as HC. -
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Time to trade up and draft a quarterback. I'm tired of all these stop gaps that wont help us in the long haul. Jeff Ireland, Stephen Ross or whomever the HC will be, needs to suck it up and trade up at ANY cost.
I don't want a vet QB being our starter, notice how I said starter and not backup. If Robert Griffen III isn't our selection in the first round, I'm done with this team.
Draft QB in 1st round and try filling our defensive needs in FA. Wouldn't hurt to get a legit #2 WR either. Hartline and Bess isn't a legit #2. -
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Griffin isn't worth selling the farm for. -
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In fact..it is never enough for a franchise QB. -
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ISN'T. Sorry. Fixed the typo.
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RGIII is not a "sure" thing. Luck is. Therefore, its worth giving up whatever it would take to get Luck. With RGIII you can't give up your ability to make a move for a QB next draft, in case he doesn't work out. Until you find your franchise QB, you need to make a move to get one every year. This year, Flynn has as much chance at being franchise as RGIII, but he doesn't handicap your chances of finding a guy next year. So you go for Flynn.
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So, what else is new? We've shunned QB in the first round for the last 28 years.
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I would pay Indy whatever they want for Andrew Luck.
I would pay nothing for Robert Griffin. -
Our little meaningless late season winning streak made that a reality. -
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I would rather us not reach for a QB. If "the" QB's are gone by the time we pick, I would rather address a different position than over-value a QB and have him bust. Move on to the next position of need and grab it, or trade down and grab other positions if we can't trade up.
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I'm all for being adventurous in obtaining the QB of the future....as long as we leave the ability open to try again the next year. Also, until we get our QB, there's no non-QB player worth trading future draft picks for. We must save our picks to make a play for a QB until we get one, then we can spend 2 firsts on a Marshall.
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