Wanted to dredge up Monst's Tracking Tanny thread from last season to start guesstimating what sort of numbers Tanny might put up with his new receivers.
Here was the data he put together...
TDs
2012: 12
2013: 24
2014: 27
TD/INT Ratio
2012: 0.92
2013: 1.41
2014: 2.25
Completion %
2012: 58.3%
2013: 60.4%
2014: 66.4%
Yards / Attempt
2012: 6.8
2013: 6.7
2014 6.9
Adjusted Yards / Attempt
2012: 6.1
2013: 6.2
2014: 6.9
Passer Rating
2012: 76
2013: 81.7
2014: 92.8
Then I did some guesstimation, starting with our receivers projected 2015 stats:
Devante 700 yds 5 TDs
Jennings 750yds 5 TDs
Landry 850yds 5 TDs
Stills 750yds 4TDs
Jordan Cameron (gets injured) 300 yds 3 TDs
Dion Sims 300yds 2 TDs
Lamar Miller 200yds 0TDs
Jay Ajayi 175yds 1TD
Damien Williams 100 Yds 1TD
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TOTAL = 4125 yards 26 TDs
(Note: Last year Tannehill had 4045yds and 27 TDs)
Now, I figure that Tanneill's completion percentage SHOULD go up, since Stills and Parker have better catch radius than Wallace. The INTs will depend, to some degree, on his protection. He seems to lob more INTs when he has inconsistent protection. I am going to guess that it's slightly better than last year's INT rate due to another year of progression and experience in the league for Tannehill, plus another year in Lazor's system, plus Jennings being dependable at being in the place he is supposed to be, plus ditto of Landry.
My projections:
TDs
2012: 12
2013: 24
2014: 27
2015: 26
TD/INT Ratio
2012: 0.92
2013: 1.41
2014: 2.25
2015: 2.6
Completion %
2012: 58.3%
2013: 60.4%
[B]2014: 66.4%
2015: 68%
[U][B]Yards / Attempt[/B][/U][B][B]
2012: 6.8
2013: 6.7
[B]2014: 6.9
2015: 7.0
[U][B]Adjusted Yards / Attempt[/B][/U][B][B]
2012: 6.1
2013: 6.2
[B]2014: 6.9
2015: 7.0
[U][B]Passer Rating[/B][/U][B][B]
2012: 76
2013: 81.7
[B]2014: 92.8
2015: 95
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Last season, if I'm not mistaken, 8/10 starting QBs with a 95+ passer rating made the playoffs...if he gets to a 95 rating and if our defense can get better than last season's, I think it's pretty safe to say we'll be in the playoffs.
And it is not far-fetched to say he'll get at least to a 95 rating based on his yearly progression, better OL and new weapons that fit both the scheme and Tannehill's strengths better. So, yes, I'm predicting playoffs.Bpk likes this. -
Thanks for saving me the work this year Bpk! Glad someone was enjoying those threads. :up:
I think your projections are pretty spot on. Not sure I agree with everyone who says Tannehill will have 30+ TDs this year. I think they are forgetting Wallace accounted for 10 of those TDs last year. That production will be hard to replace, and I have nowhere near the faith that most everyone else on this board has in the ability of Kenny Stills to replace a significant portion of Wallace's production. I hope to be wrong, but I think he will be a huge disappointment for this team. I'd love to come back here and eat my words if I'm wrong. So to me, I agree his efficiency should go up with another year in the system. I think the TD production will depend on how quickly and how big of an impact Parker can make. Jordan Cameron is he's healthy might also be able to replace some of that lost TD production. Not sure how much gas Jennings has left in the tank but hopefully he can help too. It's nowhere near the mess the team was in after parting ways with Brandon Marshall, and at least they have addressed the hole left by Wallace so we will see.Bpk likes this. -
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I think his numbers go up at a steady rate, much like over the past two years, generally. But even though I think this Offense will have the pieces to FAR outpace recent years' performances, I also think a lot of that will be the run game, more-so than the passing. If the Defense is as nasty as I believe it will be, we won't need to throw-throw-throw. I think RTs efficiency numbers go up nicely, while overall totals for measurables like TDs, INTs, Yards, slightly increase.
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Just spitballing - nothing deeply thought out or studied, but I'd say my expectations would be for RT's yards to go slightly up, and TDs to go up by 3-5, while the INT% stays about the same and completion % goes up a tad.
4150 yards
31 TD
12 INT
68% comp
98 rating
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Rec TDs 2014
Wallace 10
Landry 5
Clay 3
Hartline 2
Matthews 2
Sims 2
Miller 1
Williams 1
Gibson 1
So even if Landry remains around 5, the other top 3 WR from last year combined for 14. Can Parker, Stills and Jennings beat that if everyone stays healthy? I think so. Clay and Sims combine for 5. Can Cameron and Sims beat that? I think that they can double it. We also had how many TDs dropped last year? Seemed like an unusually high number. -
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Im gonna go....
4500 Yards
I am going to go 35 Tds. And here's why:
Last season I believe the Dolphins were at or near the top in Red Zone Opportunities. But they were at or near the bottom in Red Zone TDs. Last season we really had no legit red zone target. We got down to the red zone better then almost everyone else in the league, we just could not convert. Some of that is no red zone, and I think some of that is getting up to speed on the offense. Smaller windows...you have to execute better.
So...2nd year in Lazor's offense will produce better execution, especially in the red zone. We also now have 2 legit Red Zone Targets.
so....4500 yards
35 Tds...
17 Ints...
and...a whopping
7.3 YPA....
Tanny is gonna hit him some deep balls this season....better line protection, more time to let things develop down field! His INTs will uptick some, but I think that will be a result of him being more aggresive then anything.
Oh...
Just remember where you read it first.
He makes Pro Bowl.
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I'd just like to see him crack a 100 QB Rating.
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Here are my guesses for the passing game...
Tannehill 400/600, 4350 yards, 32 TD, 12 INT - 97.3 Passer Rating
Landry 100 rec, 1050 yards, 6 TD
Stills 65 rec, 900 yards, 4 TD
Jennings 45 rec, 600 yards, 6 TD
Parker 35 rec, 500 yards, 7 TD
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I think his TDs go up, his INTs go up a little as well.
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35 TD's and 4,200 yards, 65% competition.
The WR corps is light years ahead of last year. Parker and Cameron are Miami's first legit red zone threats since Tannehill was drafted. If Cameron is healthy, I wouldn't be shocked if he picks up where Wallace left off and has double digit TD's. Parker could very well be the most productive Rookie WR from this class given the QB, offense, and opportunity. I don't think 8 TD's is out of reach. Then you have Landry, who should at least replicate last year. And finally, Greg Jennings. Don't sleep on the Jennings signing, he has the ability to make plays in the short, intermediate, and deep passing game. He's a wildcard that can keep defenses off balance. What Stills will do is anyone's guess, so much depends on his chemistry with Tannehill.Unlucky 13 likes this. -
Dolphins hate running the ball and Tannehill has a full year in this system. Yes he has new receivers, but I think he will be fine.
I am going to go closer to 4,800 yards.Pennington's Limp Arm likes this. -
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You mean the team's numbers, right?
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Or 11-5
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I actually already said somewhere that I would not be surprised or disappointed to see a few more picks this year as long as he is pushing the ball down the field more and bumping up that ypa. More td's as well too.
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I expect Parker to have more than 2 catches a game. What are we thinking the starting 3 are? Parker/Landry/Jennings? Parker/Jennings/Stills? Jennings/Landry/Stills?
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I also think that if Parker, Stills and Cameron all play to their abilities, Landry could also see fewer targets. Not from a lack of ability, but simply because there are other viable options.
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Where's the line on that type of thinking?
Should we think it's strange to expect to lose any games for a team you are cheering for?
Come on, dude. Separate liking something from being capable of objectivity. Otherwise, we may as well just have a fantasies and dreams thread instead o of a predictions thread. Fantasies and dreams meaning no negative thoughts are allowed.
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Just to be clear, I am not HOPING Cameron gets injured. I'll be pissed if he does. Just trying to guesstimate what's possible this year.
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I think that you have to play your #1 pick. You have to get him involved early, and hope his physical traits allow him to be somewhat successful while he adapts to the pro game. He's only going to learn by playing in actual games.
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i'll go with similar numbers to 2014. we didnt fix our biggest need this offseason, the offensive line, so i see the same problems as last year. i do think we'll probably be a bit better inside the red zone however due to the WR/ TE additions, so increase the TDs by 5
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The line has had enough talent to play at an average level IMO. The QB needs to do a better job with protection calls, the OL needs to communicate better, and the WRs need to making catches down field. I think the addition of Stills will help, and hopefully the first two issues improve as well.
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I'll throw it in here, too, since people seem to be glossing over how bad the line really was...when teams could rush four, and get pressure from multiple areas, in under 4 seconds, heck, under 3 seconds sometimes, I find it hard to place any blame, anywhere but on the line itself. It wasn't that Tannehill wasn't reading blitzes, and was therefore not calling protections. It was simple four man rushes acting like we didn't have an oline out there.
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